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Not really OpenAI but today's society. I say this started with the "just do it and ask for forgiveness later" attitude that started maybe 20 or 30 years ago.
by jmclnx 1mo ago
Not really OpenAI but today's society. I say this started with the "just do it and ask for forgiveness later" attitude that started maybe 20 or 30 years ago.
At one time most people had respect, even people at the top, now many people just do what they want. Plus most of the time they get away with it.
- doodlebugging 1mo agoWe can fix this by holding each other accountable. Peer pressure and community sanctions of bad actors will result in the changes we need.
- Jtsummers 1mo ago> Peer pressure and community sanctions of bad actors will result in the changes we need. It's been demonstrated over centuries that this is unreliable. We end up needing a third party (commonly governments) to step in and establish rules and referee behavior. We wouldn't have an EPA, FCC, SEC, or many other organizations and laws if private actors could successfully police themselves.
- doodlebugging 1mo agoPrivate actors are inevitably part of groups. Those groups need to hold the individual members accountable. That obviously doesn't work any more in SV among wealth-obsessed tech-bros. It still works in other parts of the economy though.
- blitzar 1mo agoGuessing you haven't take the HR training - thats not allowed anymore.
- doodlebugging 1mo agoEvidently not in that industry.
- ViktorRay 1mo agoOne could make the argument that "just do it and ask for forgiveness later" is what the entire LLM industry is based on. They swallowed up all of society’s copyrighted texts without really asking for permission from anyone. This is just par for the course for them it seems unfortunately.
- jimnotgym 1mo agoOne could argue that it is what Trevithick did to make better steam engines, or what Cisco did with routers. Or countless others. IP theft can really pay off.
- baxtr 1mo agoWell the asking for forgiveness part is also missing in this case, entirely.
- everybodyknows 1mo agoIt's actually forbidden, by advice of legal counsel, because in court the other side would present it as evidence of knowing culpability.
- ted_dunning 1mo agoIn legal speak "please forgive me" is pronounced "so sue me!"