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Improved User Profiles

117 points by gilrain 14y ago

swlkr 14y ago
bitbucket's unlimited free private repositories are amazing
dkhenry 14y ago
Bit bucket is making real progress, but I still don't think I can drop GitHub all together for them. I actually like them better, but almost every open source project I use is on GitHub and only one is one BitBucket. Its almost at the point where GitHub own so much of the ecosystem that its hard to collaborate without them. Keep on chugging BitBucket, everything you have done so far has been for the better.
- MatthewPhillips 14y ago
  For me it's as simple as open source projects go on GitHub, private projects go on Bitbucket.
  - ibrow 14y ago
    Ditto for me. It is the unlimited free private repos that initially drew me to Bitbucket, however, I am now happily paying the $10 per month for multiple members of the team (7 of them) for the company account. Using Github the way we would like (multiple repos) would put us in the $50 per month bracket, which seems excessive. Bitbucket, for our use case, has the perfect price point.
  - bti 14y ago
    Exactly. Especially when you are a one-man team, there is no use for any of GitHub's social features for private repos.
  - joeblossom 14y ago
    This. I switched from github to bitbucket in all of about 10 minutes a weekend ago for my private repos. $7/month more in my pocket. I did find it interesting that when I canceled with Github they killed my "paid account" status right away, rather than let me have the rest of the month.
    - paulgb 14y ago
      I wish GitHub would offer unlimited private repos and just charge for collaborators. I don't mind paying $12/month for 10 repos, but I've gotten to the point where I have old projects sitting around that I still want access to but can't make public.
      - kmfrk 14y ago
        I wish there were a way to make a repo an archive, an inactive repo, so it doesn't count towards your private repo count. The same goes for deprecated repos. I still have some older repos I keep around because they show how (poorly) I coded way back when, and I don't plan on showing that to potential employers perusing my account. :P
      - benajnim 14y ago
        Couldn't you create a repo in bitbucket and push to it as a new remote head to keep your revision history?
    - gojomo 14y ago
      Might Github have issued a prorated refund to your credit card for the portion of the month unused?
- kmfrk 14y ago
  I think they could easily beat GitHub on something like the social experience of coding as well as gists in general. The Gist system is not terrible, but it is far from perfect - after the new update, it no longer saves my log-in, for one. BitBucket don't have to be the go-to place for projects. GitHub tries to be many things, but doesn't succeed at all of them. Projects and pages is probably where they're the best.
  - lucisferre 14y ago
    Two things that are missing from Gist's for me: 1. The ability to save a commit message with revisions of a file in a Gist 2. The ability to reference a specific revision of a Gist file when embedding it. But yeah the login thing is pretty annoying.
- rhizome 14y ago
  Is the composition of the ecosystem that way really the limitation you imply it is? You visit more than one news site than HN, right?
  - pardner 14y ago
    Other news sites?
    - rhizome 14y ago
      Right. My implication is that there's not much difference between using multiple news sites and multiple SCM sources for different needs. Does the BB/GH split really matter after the initial pull and you're just in update/commit/deploy mode?
- ksec 14y ago
  That is until BB works out a one click migration tool from GitHub to Grab those OpenSource Directly to BB.
sebkomianos 14y ago
Any significant reasons on why bitbucket is so behind github? I mean, "open source projects are in github" might be an answer but my question is "why are open source projects in github and not in bitbucket?".
- MatthewPhillips 14y ago
  I think it's fair to say that GitHub grabbed the lead because it was at the time much better than the competition. Now that they are the incumbent, network effect is going to win out for a long time.
- TillE 14y ago
  BitBucket only supported Mercurial for a long time. That's fine with me, but if you prefer Git, it wasn't an option.
  - kmfrk 14y ago
    I think that was what put me off at first. I think git was just more popular around the time I looked into using a VCS.
Surio 14y ago
This is a personal opinion, so please ignore if you do not agree. I feel there is too much adulation (perhaps bordering on unhealthy, even) around github and its services. So, every thriving alternative (to github) is very welcome in my view. (git is a great VCS, etc., etc. But other VCS' are not exactly unworkable, you know) This might be OT but, I am genuinely curious. Why not SourceForge (http://sourceforge.net/ http://sourceforge.net/)? They are the grand-daddy of free and open hosting. They have been around for ages and providing free hosting services to all and sundry for as long as I can recall. I for one, am very grateful for their support of all the various open projects and the FOSS community support, before FOSS took off like it took off now. I have benefitted and continue to benefit from many a project even to this day -- and I am sure many of you all do use SF hosted projects too. One example, all the portable apps for example, are hosted with Sourceforge. So, why not use them and show your support? (Vote with your purse, etc., etc.) P.S:- I don't have anything to do with SF. I am just interested in other thoughts and views. EDIT: And Sourceforge actually allow you to host binaries unlike the recently inexplicable github rule of we will allow you to upload large, cutesy cat photos in comments, but disable hosting of binaries Am I the only one who also enjoyed SF's newly revamped UI to keep with the times? EDIT 2: They have recently started a monthly campaign called "Featured Projects" on their blog to highlight projects that don't have active work being done on them. So if one is interested one can "adopt a project" and nurture it back to health and relevance. E.g.: http://sourceforge.net/blog/featured-projects-2012120/ http://sourceforge.net/blog/featured-projects-2012120/ And then there is the "Project of the month" http://sourceforge.net/blog/potm/ http://sourceforge.net/blog/potm/ EDIT 3: In case others are interested (or may not be aware, as the case may be), there are also other VCS and free around those VCS repositories. Sharing it out of interest. E.g.: https://launchpad.net/bzr https://launchpad.net/bzr https://launchpad.net/ https://launchpad.net/
- windsurfer 14y ago
  Lets take a look at two repos on sourceforge and github: http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlc/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlc/ https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js They serve entirely different purposes. Sourceforge looks like a sales page, listing features and downloads. Gitub has the contents of the source right there at the top, before the readme or description, even! Github seems to be focused on developers, while sourceforge is like a download portal for open source software.
eliben 14y ago
I'm happy that BitBucket keeps evolving as a viable alternative to Github. Alternatives are good. Competition is good and healthy. I personally prefer BB because I like Mercurial more than I like Git. IMHO it provides all the same benefits with a much saner interface. Bitbucket also seems to provide all or almost all the nice features Github has. And, the biggest boon of BB vs. Github is free private repositories.
- mylittlepony 14y ago
  Free and unlimited private repositories =p
- StavrosK 14y ago
  The VCS software thing is really much less of an impediment now. Both hg and bzr (yes, I actually like bzr most of the three) export to git. I'd be using bzr for all my repos, if it didn't have a bug where "push" meant "push --force". I should look and see if they fixed it.
  - Cogito 14y ago
    And in case you have missed it, there is work going on right now to add hg and bzr remote-helper support to git. In particular, if you look at the latest RC announcement[1] for git v1.8.1 we see * A new remote-helper interface for Mercurial has been added to contrib/remote-helpers. and in the most recent "What's cooking"[2] (dev updates) we see * fc/remote-bzr (2012-12-13) 10 commits [snipped] New remote helper for bzr (v3). With minor fixes, this may be ready for 'next'. A big hats off to Felipe Contreras[4] who has done a lot of work to get these updates rolled out. Not sure how many others have been involved, but thanks! The latest RC is available from the usual places, for example [3]. [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1410998 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1410998 [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/212021 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/21202... [3] https://github.com/gitster/git/tree/v1.8.1-rc2 https://github.com/gitster/git/tree/v1.8.1-rc2 [4] https://github.com/felipec https://github.com/felipec
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sergiotapia 14y ago
BitBucket just keeps getting better! Thank you so much for letting single freelance developers host their projects in private for free unlike Github. You guys are better than Github in my opinion. Keep on going on!
gary4gar 14y ago
WoW...this is nice. Now, only if they could fix their source code browser which si really slow compared to github's.
bloc 14y ago
As mentioned bitbucket has free private reos, and it's great to have more competition. On a side note, the main reason I moved was because of github username policies. You can have your username given to another person organization for a ambiguous policy of 'not being active'. This occurs at the discretion of the github admin on hand. I logged in probably every 4-5 months to peruse other repos, but that was not enough. I even got a 'password' change request that I ignored because I didn't request it. I assume that shortly after that my account was given away. Sure usernames are part vanity and part pride, but they also identify you among your communities. Being an early adopter of github in august 2008, you would also hope they would give you a little more respect. What about asking me to pay $ cause I would have. Oh well, I'm on bitbucket and enjoy it. From a strategic standpoint, I would suggest bitbucket start asking major projects to move their repos over.

117 points by gilrain 14y ago

swlkr 14y ago

bitbucket's unlimited free private repositories are amazing

Bit bucket is making real progress, but I still don't think I can drop GitHub all together for them. I actually like them better, but almost every open source project I use is on GitHub and only one is one BitBucket. Its almost at the point where GitHub own so much of the ecosystem that its hard to collaborate without them. Keep on chugging BitBucket, everything you have done so far has been for the better.

MatthewPhillips 14y ago
For me it's as simple as open source projects go on GitHub, private projects go on Bitbucket.
- ibrow 14y ago
  Ditto for me. It is the unlimited free private repos that initially drew me to Bitbucket, however, I am now happily paying the $10 per month for multiple members of the team (7 of them) for the company account. Using Github the way we would like (multiple repos) would put us in the $50 per month bracket, which seems excessive. Bitbucket, for our use case, has the perfect price point.
- bti 14y ago
  Exactly. Especially when you are a one-man team, there is no use for any of GitHub's social features for private repos.
- joeblossom 14y ago
  This. I switched from github to bitbucket in all of about 10 minutes a weekend ago for my private repos. $7/month more in my pocket. I did find it interesting that when I canceled with Github they killed my "paid account" status right away, rather than let me have the rest of the month.
  - paulgb 14y ago
    I wish GitHub would offer unlimited private repos and just charge for collaborators. I don't mind paying $12/month for 10 repos, but I've gotten to the point where I have old projects sitting around that I still want access to but can't make public.
    - kmfrk 14y ago
      I wish there were a way to make a repo an archive, an inactive repo, so it doesn't count towards your private repo count. The same goes for deprecated repos. I still have some older repos I keep around because they show how (poorly) I coded way back when, and I don't plan on showing that to potential employers perusing my account. :P
    - benajnim 14y ago
      Couldn't you create a repo in bitbucket and push to it as a new remote head to keep your revision history?
  - gojomo 14y ago
    Might Github have issued a prorated refund to your credit card for the portion of the month unused?
kmfrk 14y ago
I think they could easily beat GitHub on something like the social experience of coding as well as gists in general. The Gist system is not terrible, but it is far from perfect - after the new update, it no longer saves my log-in, for one. BitBucket don't have to be the go-to place for projects. GitHub tries to be many things, but doesn't succeed at all of them. Projects and pages is probably where they're the best.
- lucisferre 14y ago
  Two things that are missing from Gist's for me: 1. The ability to save a commit message with revisions of a file in a Gist 2. The ability to reference a specific revision of a Gist file when embedding it. But yeah the login thing is pretty annoying.
rhizome 14y ago
Is the composition of the ecosystem that way really the limitation you imply it is? You visit more than one news site than HN, right?
- pardner 14y ago
  Other news sites?
  - rhizome 14y ago
    Right. My implication is that there's not much difference between using multiple news sites and multiple SCM sources for different needs. Does the BB/GH split really matter after the initial pull and you're just in update/commit/deploy mode?
ksec 14y ago
That is until BB works out a one click migration tool from GitHub to Grab those OpenSource Directly to BB.

sebkomianos 14y ago

Any significant reasons on why bitbucket is so behind github? I mean, "open source projects are in github" might be an answer but my question is "why are open source projects in github and not in bitbucket?".

MatthewPhillips 14y ago
I think it's fair to say that GitHub grabbed the lead because it was at the time much better than the competition. Now that they are the incumbent, network effect is going to win out for a long time.
TillE 14y ago
BitBucket only supported Mercurial for a long time. That's fine with me, but if you prefer Git, it wasn't an option.
- kmfrk 14y ago
  I think that was what put me off at first. I think git was just more popular around the time I looked into using a VCS.

Surio 14y ago

This is a personal opinion, so please ignore if you do not agree. I feel there is too much adulation (perhaps bordering on unhealthy, even) around github and its services. So, every thriving alternative (to github) is very welcome in my view. (git is a great VCS, etc., etc. But other VCS' are not exactly unworkable, you know) This might be OT but, I am genuinely curious. Why not SourceForge (http://sourceforge.net/ http://sourceforge.net/)? They are the grand-daddy of free and open hosting. They have been around for ages and providing free hosting services to all and sundry for as long as I can recall. I for one, am very grateful for their support of all the various open projects and the FOSS community support, before FOSS took off like it took off now. I have benefitted and continue to benefit from many a project even to this day -- and I am sure many of you all do use SF hosted projects too. One example, all the portable apps for example, are hosted with Sourceforge. So, why not use them and show your support? (Vote with your purse, etc., etc.) P.S:- I don't have anything to do with SF. I am just interested in other thoughts and views. EDIT: And Sourceforge actually allow you to host binaries unlike the recently inexplicable github rule of we will allow you to upload large, cutesy cat photos in comments, but disable hosting of binaries Am I the only one who also enjoyed SF's newly revamped UI to keep with the times? EDIT 2: They have recently started a monthly campaign called "Featured Projects" on their blog to highlight projects that don't have active work being done on them. So if one is interested one can "adopt a project" and nurture it back to health and relevance. E.g.: http://sourceforge.net/blog/featured-projects-2012120/ http://sourceforge.net/blog/featured-projects-2012120/ And then there is the "Project of the month" http://sourceforge.net/blog/potm/ http://sourceforge.net/blog/potm/ EDIT 3: In case others are interested (or may not be aware, as the case may be), there are also other VCS and free around those VCS repositories. Sharing it out of interest. E.g.: https://launchpad.net/bzr https://launchpad.net/bzr https://launchpad.net/ https://launchpad.net/

windsurfer 14y ago
Lets take a look at two repos on sourceforge and github: http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlc/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlc/ https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js They serve entirely different purposes. Sourceforge looks like a sales page, listing features and downloads. Gitub has the contents of the source right there at the top, before the readme or description, even! Github seems to be focused on developers, while sourceforge is like a download portal for open source software.

eliben 14y ago

I'm happy that BitBucket keeps evolving as a viable alternative to Github. Alternatives are good. Competition is good and healthy. I personally prefer BB because I like Mercurial more than I like Git. IMHO it provides all the same benefits with a much saner interface. Bitbucket also seems to provide all or almost all the nice features Github has. And, the biggest boon of BB vs. Github is free private repositories.

mylittlepony 14y ago
Free and unlimited private repositories =p
StavrosK 14y ago
The VCS software thing is really much less of an impediment now. Both hg and bzr (yes, I actually like bzr most of the three) export to git. I'd be using bzr for all my repos, if it didn't have a bug where "push" meant "push --force". I should look and see if they fixed it.
- Cogito 14y ago
  And in case you have missed it, there is work going on right now to add hg and bzr remote-helper support to git. In particular, if you look at the latest RC announcement[1] for git v1.8.1 we see * A new remote-helper interface for Mercurial has been added to contrib/remote-helpers. and in the most recent "What's cooking"[2] (dev updates) we see * fc/remote-bzr (2012-12-13) 10 commits [snipped] New remote helper for bzr (v3). With minor fixes, this may be ready for 'next'. A big hats off to Felipe Contreras[4] who has done a lot of work to get these updates rolled out. Not sure how many others have been involved, but thanks! The latest RC is available from the usual places, for example [3]. [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1410998 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1410998 [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/212021 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/21202... [3] https://github.com/gitster/git/tree/v1.8.1-rc2 https://github.com/gitster/git/tree/v1.8.1-rc2 [4] https://github.com/felipec https://github.com/felipec
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sergiotapia 14y ago

BitBucket just keeps getting better! Thank you so much for letting single freelance developers host their projects in private for free unlike Github. You guys are better than Github in my opinion. Keep on going on!

gary4gar 14y ago

WoW...this is nice. Now, only if they could fix their source code browser which si really slow compared to github's.

bloc 14y ago

As mentioned bitbucket has free private reos, and it's great to have more competition. On a side note, the main reason I moved was because of github username policies. You can have your username given to another person organization for a ambiguous policy of 'not being active'. This occurs at the discretion of the github admin on hand. I logged in probably every 4-5 months to peruse other repos, but that was not enough. I even got a 'password' change request that I ignored because I didn't request it. I assume that shortly after that my account was given away. Sure usernames are part vanity and part pride, but they also identify you among your communities. Being an early adopter of github in august 2008, you would also hope they would give you a little more respect. What about asking me to pay $ cause I would have. Oh well, I'm on bitbucket and enjoy it. From a strategic standpoint, I would suggest bitbucket start asking major projects to move their repos over.