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I share this sentiment, while deploring the current AI board room sentiment. I know some people that design (safe) buildings. They use software all the time for

by wjnc 1mo ago

I share this sentiment, while deploring the current AI board room sentiment. I know some people that design (safe) buildings. They use software all the time for their load-bearing work (lol). Think about the creativity that could be unleashed if that (like LEAN for math) becomes a commodity. The same thing for my job: creating insurance premiums is somewhat hard but not stellar. A combination of skills, data, tools and people. I can imagine a future where you can post a 'have good weather on holiday or money back' bond on a platform. (I can think of more serious applications...) The sheer diversity and amount of liquidity AI's can create is enormous. (Switching to a very general outlook here.) And with liquidity hopefully comes more specificity in the ROI on saving our planet. (Or the disproving of the necessity thereof, if that is your outlook.)

knollimar 1mo ago
Construction isn't using LLMs any time soon like that. We don't even send our files in structured data because everyone's playing nose goes for liability and sending pdfs
- wjnc 1mo ago
  I know! And financials and actuaries aren't either. Excel, Python, R and don't know what we can use ducktape and spit for to keep together. But as the LEAN-example quite nicely shows: with the right scaffolding I am convinced the GPU World /could/ look rosy. An economic problem would be - how could the builder of a scaffold capture _some_ value without right away be copied. The fact that LLMs threw away every protection of intellectual property at their inception makes it a lot harder to invest in (with the goal of capturing some) value. I am at least /somewhat/ influenced by RMS on the 'seductive mirage' of IP but I have my doubts on how copyleft could bring more than breadcrumbs to those who build scaffolds.
  - knollimar 1mo ago
    The LEAN example is the ideal case. It's like a baby POC to me. I can only assume the only realistic way to get all the federated data will be a ton of massivr vertical consolidation of industry by hubris laden tech execs crossing industry domains.
    - wjnc 1mo ago
      In spirit of this conversation - Terence Tao is awesome right? He was already one of the best mathematicians on the planet when he happened to start dabbling in computer assisted proofs (obviously as a giant standing on the shoulders of giants) at exactly the right time for the computer revolution to find a perfect use case (as you point out).

by wjnc 1mo ago

knollimar 1mo ago

Construction isn't using LLMs any time soon like that. We don't even send our files in structured data because everyone's playing nose goes for liability and sending pdfs

wjnc 1mo ago
I know! And financials and actuaries aren't either. Excel, Python, R and don't know what we can use ducktape and spit for to keep together. But as the LEAN-example quite nicely shows: with the right scaffolding I am convinced the GPU World /could/ look rosy. An economic problem would be - how could the builder of a scaffold capture _some_ value without right away be copied. The fact that LLMs threw away every protection of intellectual property at their inception makes it a lot harder to invest in (with the goal of capturing some) value. I am at least /somewhat/ influenced by RMS on the 'seductive mirage' of IP but I have my doubts on how copyleft could bring more than breadcrumbs to those who build scaffolds.
- knollimar 1mo ago
  The LEAN example is the ideal case. It's like a baby POC to me. I can only assume the only realistic way to get all the federated data will be a ton of massivr vertical consolidation of industry by hubris laden tech execs crossing industry domains.
  - wjnc 1mo ago
    In spirit of this conversation - Terence Tao is awesome right? He was already one of the best mathematicians on the planet when he happened to start dabbling in computer assisted proofs (obviously as a giant standing on the shoulders of giants) at exactly the right time for the computer revolution to find a perfect use case (as you point out).