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> What is different here? I don’t understand how this is a question. What’s different is that it comes configured this way out of the box, silently, without w
by Aurornis 2mo ago
> What is different here?
I don’t understand how this is a question.
What’s different is that it comes configured this way out of the box, silently, without warning. It’s functionally equivalent to opting in to giving all user accounts root privileges, which is not what anyone expects the default configuration to be.
You can choose to configure your installs this way if you choose to do so. It should not come this way quietly by default.
- trap0xcc 2mo agoExactly.
- LinXitoW 2mo agoIt does warn you. It's an opinionated Linux for a modern developer/user. This modification absolutely makes sense in that context.
- Aurornis 2mo agoI hope this was an attempt at sarcasm. The Omarchy team immediately fixed this because it was a security oversight, not an intentional opinionated choice.
- teekert 2mo agoImo they could have sold it like that, in this case. A warning would be in order though.
- wojciii 2mo agoOpinionated choice? I recently used Arch Linux because I have a 4 GiB Mac Air that I want to use for something but it has too little RAM for UI. The installer was user friendly and fast. I got exactly what I wanted. I don't think that I need Omarchy. I have only one answer to this: I'm too old for this shit.
- troupo 2mo agoThere was no oversight and no security. It's vibe-coders pushing unvetted shell scripts and dotfiles. They "immediately fixed it" after it blew up on X/Twitter. Just like all the other issues they've had in the past few weeks. And now they formed a "security team" lol.
- treebeard901 2mo agoDHH was on the Lex Fridman podcast talking about this recent release of Omarchy in that most of it is "vibe coded". It is mostly just a bash script to configure Linux, but his approach is interesting. AI as a core part of the OS that can just change or add anything you want. Linux is great for this because it has access to the source code for everything. He said he didnt review the code line by line, just looked at the shape of it. Whatever that means.
- troupo 2mo ago> DHH was on the Lex Fridman podcast talking about this recent release of Omarchy in that most of it is "vibe coded". > He said he didnt review the code line by line, just looked at the shape of it. Whatever that means. Did... did you even read my comment before replying to it? We know it's vibe-coded, we know it's bash scripts, and we know what it means
- treebeard901 2mo agoI was just adding more context than your post included
- 0x20cowboy 2mo agoAh, the opinionated strikes again.
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- JeremyNT 2mo agoThe whole point of Omarchy is for people who want to use Arch Linux but have it configured the way DHH does. So I think it's a little different. Anybody using an opinionated respin should understand what they're getting.
- matheusmoreira 2mo ago> people who want to use Arch Linux but have it configured the way DHH does Then they don't actually want to use Arch Linux. The Arch Linux way is to read the excellent wiki documentation, learn about all the choices available, and then make all of those choices so the system is configured the user's way instead of some celebrity's way.
- jadar 2mo agoCouldn’t you say that about any Arch spinoff? Seems to be the no true scotsman fallacy.
- matheusmoreira 2mo ago> Couldn’t you say that about any Arch spinoff? I can, and I do. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux#User_centrality https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux#User_centrality > It is targeted at the proficient GNU/Linux user, or anyone with a do-it-yourself attitude who is willing to read the documentation, and solve their own problems.
- Dylan16807 2mo agoAssuming you mean "they don't actually want to use Arch" as a criticism (rather than a truism), I think that's fair for a distro described as "Arch linux but configured X way". I don't think it's a good criticism for something like SteamOS which is configurable but is aiming hard for "it just works".
- jaapz 2mo ago> Then they don't actually want to use Arch Linux. No, they want to use Arch Linux as configured by DHH
- BobbyTables2 2mo agoMore like a company that had hundreds of millions of dollars and a couple decades should have fixed it by now. If only Podman could beat Docker in advertising…
- 0xbadcafebee 2mo agoFirst they should try making a solution that works as well as Docker. Every time I use Podman or Podman Desktop I run into the most basic problems. Docker works out of the box everywhere.
- osigurdson 2mo agoI don't use Podman desktop but I haven't had any issues at all with basic Podman. It just seems like a better overall design. It would be great if Docker copied the rootless / daemonless approach if possible.
- teekert 2mo agoFor me the problems are always when I pull some image (like GitLab) and try to get it to work with podman. Or the hoops you have to jump through with podman-compose (user lingering, systemd services, privileged ports (80,443) [yeah I know it's a feature]). Docker just works, Podman (I feel) still requires stuff that makes it less declarative (to get to a running infra). Still, having a gitlab runner with a docker in docker setup that can access the host docker socket is not something you do lighty, so I am eyeballing buildah etc. I guess what really grinds my gears is that I'd use podman a looooot more if it could nicely coexist with Docker. I'd use Docker for the big services and podman for all my own stuff. But that is just not possible (at least not afaik), so it is also difficult to switch step by step (yes VMs, bla bla, but it's all complicating).
- osigurdson 1mo agoMakes sense. I never use podman compose and instead just use k8s like yamls. I find it easier anyway.