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I would love to live in a world where thieves feared for their lives.
by exabrial 1mo ago
I would love to live in a world where thieves feared for their lives.
- cosmicgadget 1mo agoSounds like Texas is the place for you.
- ultrarunner 1mo agoNo, I think their civil forfeiture rates are quite a bit higher than average. Property taxes too. Quite a bit of fearless thievery going on in Texas.
- cosmicgadget 1mo agoCivil forfeiture, sure but the property taxes are presumably to offset the lack of income tax, neither of which is thievery outside of a Zerohedge comment section.
- giardini 1mo agoYeah, but who know how many thieves end up dead. And regardless of state, there's always revenge - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071402/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071402/
- 3eb7988a1663 1mo agoYet I believe crime still happens in Texas.
- jrflowers 1mo agoYou want thieves to be armed?
- AlexandrB 1mo agoThey frequently already are. Even here in Canada[1] where any kind of "carry" is generally not allowed. Shockingly, thieves often don't care about gun laws though. [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-police-cash-reward-fairview-mall-robbery-shooting-9.7178567 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-police-cash-r...
- cosmicgadget 1mo agoYour link refers to a single robbery which explicitly requires that you threaten another individual. "Thieves" encompasses far, far more than robbery, crimes where you needn't threaten someone else and carrying an illegal firearm becomes a liability.
- earth-tattoo 1mo agoIt's much more safe for a law abiding citizen to assume that all thieves are armed, because they most likely are.
- jrflowers 1mo agoThat’s awful, it’s terrible that the thieves fear for their lives so much that they arm themselves
- Scrapemist 1mo agoBurglars in particular tend to target empty houses precisely to avoid confrontation. To bring a weapon only make sense if there is a chance of getting shot at.
- crote 1mo agoIsn't "crime, done with the involvement of a firearm" also often more harshly punished than the plain crime itself? If a burglar is targeting empty houses, this would give them a strong incentive to not bring a firearm, just in case they get caught. As the saying goes, only break one law at a time!
- lwkl 1mo agoYes burglary with weapons is called robbery and is treated as a more serious crime with a higher punishments in a lot of jurisdiction
- cosmicgadget 1mo agoI thought robbery required a victim person be present.
- cosmicgadget 1mo ago> because they most likely are. This has to be made up.
- subscribed 1mo agoThey already are, including in the countries that penalise carrying anything for the self defense.
- exabrial 1mo agoEscalating petty theft into attempted murder charges, with the possibility of capital punishment? Um...
- kelseyfrog 1mo agoThis is why Texas has the lowest rate of crime in the US.
- zoul 1mo agoIs this irony? Judging by https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/crime-rate-by-state https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/crime-rate-... it’s not true.
- kelseyfrog 1mo agoIt has to be true, otherwise exabrial's wish isn't about lowering crime rates; it's based on something else.
- xnx 1mo agoTry Saudi Arabia or Iran
- bob1029 1mo agoI think that world largely exists. There are some counties in Texas where crime is essentially negligible. I live a few minutes away from one of the facilities where capital punishment is administered. The local community is extremely pleasant. I don't bother locking my doors at home or at the grocery store. The only place any real crime occurs is within a few hundred yards of the interstate. Target and Home Depot get robbed occasionally, but that's about it around here. I don't think it's physically possible to steal from my local Home Depot without ending up in the flock database. The geometry and overlapping coverage they have is pretty crazy now. You can tell they waged a full scale war against an army of meth addicts and won decisively. Every time I go into that store looking for a Milwaukee product, I find it in stock and unmolested. At no point do I worry about a western style shootout with a bandit. The most prolific criminal around here has 4 legs and only really cares for the contents of particular trash cans and gardens.
- SwellJoe 1mo agoTexas has among the highest crime rates in the country, 17th for violent crime, even worse for property crime. Given the wealth of Texas, having such high crime rates is even more embarrassing (crime and poverty go hand in hand, but Texas doesn't have that excuse). In short, you're talking out of your ass.
- tough 1mo agowealth and inequality (and so poverty) also go hand in hand. For a few to be very wealthy, the many may remain impoverished.
- SwellJoe 1mo agoThat's also true. But one of the arguments of the "law and order" types is always that more police, and more aggressive police with more power to imprison people, reduces crime. A wealthy state like Texas has a lot of cops and a lot of prisons. And, those cops are given incredible leeway in how they do their job. Texas is a case study in whether "law and order" Republican policies work, and the evidence indicates it doesn't. We're just killing people in capital punishment cases for the joy of killing, not because it reduces crime. We're spending half our cities funds on militarized police because we want our private prisons full, not because it keeps people safer. Most extremely Republican states with lax gun laws and capital punishment are poor states, with less money for cops (though they still imprison people at a high rate, they often fund it with slave labor). There are ways for states to spend money that reduces crime, but Texas chooses to spend it on violence, instead.