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Opposing fascism and racism is not "radical left". It's centrism. The State Department's words are not A/I's.

mlindner 1mo ago
Being against facism and racism is centrism, being part of an "anti-fascist" or "anti-racist" group is radical left. If you're part of a "group" that has stated goals of pushing something that is already a norm then its pretty clear what what you're doing is not pushing for what is already the norm as if it was the norm you wouldn't need to push for it.
- baobabKoodaa 1mo ago
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- strbean 1mo ago
  Checks notes Okay, so the chamber of commerce is a radical organisation, got it.
- baobabKoodaa 1mo ago
  Hey, I'm sorry about my other message. I tried to tell another user in this thread to go f* themselves, and I seem to have accidentally clicked the wrong "reply" link in the tree and so my message went to you instead. What you write here is reasonable.
jpcfl 1mo ago
Antifa is not centrist
- inigyou 1mo ago
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  - like_any_other 1mo ago
    Just call your group "the anti-bad guy good guy club", and then by definition everything you do is good and centrist. Therefore the following is centrism: An Oregon leftist and antifa ideologue seeking to stop Immigration and Customs Enforcement was arrested on Feb. 4 over a manifesto and weapons procurement plan detailing his desire to stalk federal agents at the Portland ICE facility to their homes and kill them. - https://www.ngocomment.com/p/leftist-extremist-arrested-over-plot https://www.ngocomment.com/p/leftist-extremist-arrested-over... 33 anti-Israel protesters get slap on the wrist for causing $1M in damage to U. of Washington science building - https://nypost.com/2026/03/04/us-news/33-anti-israel-protesters-get-slap-on-the-wrist-for-causing-1m-in-damage-to-university-of-washington/ https://nypost.com/2026/03/04/us-news/33-anti-israel-protest... A German interior minister and author for "Das Antifa Magazin" said asylum seekers should have the right to vote after 6 months on German soil, and called for mass censorship - https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/auslaender-sollen-in-deutschland-waehlen-faeser-will-stimmrecht-fuer-fluechtling-85454442.bild.html https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/auslaender... Stabbing black conservatives - https://thepostmillennial.com/andy-ngo-reports-no-prison-time-for-pedophile-portland-antifa-member-who-pleaded-guilty-to-stabbing-black-conservative-at-2020-riot https://thepostmillennial.com/andy-ngo-reports-no-prison-tim... Mobs physically attacking political candidates - https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/bordeaux-un-candidat-rn-aux-legislatives-passe-a-tabac-20220710/ https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/bordeaux-un-candidat-rn... Making people who condemn arson unemployable - https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-choral-composer-antifa-blm-gia/ https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-ch... On the night of July 4, 2025, 11 members of a North Texas Antifa cell carried out a coordinated attack on the Prairieland Detention Center. Earlier that day, they had conducted reconnaissance (including reporting on security of the facility), and had assembled a cache of dozens of firearms. The group planned the attack ahead of time, including a “gear check” where the leader discussed bringing rifles and ominously “not getting arrested.” They dressed in black uniforms and brought 11 firearms, body armor, and military-grade first aid kits (including tourniquets for gunshot wounds). They disabled CCTV cameras at the facility, and threw fireworks and explosives to flush the officers out for a planned massacre. When officers called 911, Lt. Thomas Gross responded. Bodycam footage shows one of the attackers yelling “get to the rifles!” as the group opened fire. Gross was shot once in the neck, with the bullet exiting through his back, but survived and continued to fight back. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention_center_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention... Beating leftists with clubs for the crime of carrying the US flag on US soil - https://www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-sanders-video-1082072 https://www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-san... (The article comes with a nice photo! Can you spot any antifa in that photo, or will you continue to play dumb?) I can keep going. If you're not convinced I can make a new post with 10x as many incidents. But it is true that there's no central antifa office with paperwork listing all their members. Nor is there one for white nationalists, but I don't see anyone arguing that doesn't exist.
baobabKoodaa 1mo ago
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- tomhow 1mo ago
  > fucking asshole. > Go fuck yourself, gaslighting piece of shit. This is a completely unacceptable style of commenting on HN, no matter who or what you're replying to. We've asked you before to observe the guidelines. Please take a moment to read them again and make an effort to observe them, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. If you can't make your point without being abusive, you probably don't have a good point. We have to ban accounts that continue commenting like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Being against facism and racism is centrism, being part of an "anti-fascist" or "anti-racist" group is radical left. If you're part of a "group" that has stated goals of pushing something that is already a norm then its pretty clear what what you're doing is not pushing for what is already the norm as if it was the norm you wouldn't need to push for it.

baobabKoodaa 1mo ago
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strbean 1mo ago
Checks notes Okay, so the chamber of commerce is a radical organisation, got it.
baobabKoodaa 1mo ago
Hey, I'm sorry about my other message. I tried to tell another user in this thread to go f* themselves, and I seem to have accidentally clicked the wrong "reply" link in the tree and so my message went to you instead. What you write here is reasonable.

jpcfl 1mo ago

Antifa is not centrist

inigyou 1mo ago
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- like_any_other 1mo ago
  Just call your group "the anti-bad guy good guy club", and then by definition everything you do is good and centrist. Therefore the following is centrism: An Oregon leftist and antifa ideologue seeking to stop Immigration and Customs Enforcement was arrested on Feb. 4 over a manifesto and weapons procurement plan detailing his desire to stalk federal agents at the Portland ICE facility to their homes and kill them. - https://www.ngocomment.com/p/leftist-extremist-arrested-over-plot https://www.ngocomment.com/p/leftist-extremist-arrested-over... 33 anti-Israel protesters get slap on the wrist for causing $1M in damage to U. of Washington science building - https://nypost.com/2026/03/04/us-news/33-anti-israel-protesters-get-slap-on-the-wrist-for-causing-1m-in-damage-to-university-of-washington/ https://nypost.com/2026/03/04/us-news/33-anti-israel-protest... A German interior minister and author for "Das Antifa Magazin" said asylum seekers should have the right to vote after 6 months on German soil, and called for mass censorship - https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/auslaender-sollen-in-deutschland-waehlen-faeser-will-stimmrecht-fuer-fluechtling-85454442.bild.html https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/auslaender... Stabbing black conservatives - https://thepostmillennial.com/andy-ngo-reports-no-prison-time-for-pedophile-portland-antifa-member-who-pleaded-guilty-to-stabbing-black-conservative-at-2020-riot https://thepostmillennial.com/andy-ngo-reports-no-prison-tim... Mobs physically attacking political candidates - https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/bordeaux-un-candidat-rn-aux-legislatives-passe-a-tabac-20220710/ https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/bordeaux-un-candidat-rn... Making people who condemn arson unemployable - https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-choral-composer-antifa-blm-gia/ https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-ch... On the night of July 4, 2025, 11 members of a North Texas Antifa cell carried out a coordinated attack on the Prairieland Detention Center. Earlier that day, they had conducted reconnaissance (including reporting on security of the facility), and had assembled a cache of dozens of firearms. The group planned the attack ahead of time, including a “gear check” where the leader discussed bringing rifles and ominously “not getting arrested.” They dressed in black uniforms and brought 11 firearms, body armor, and military-grade first aid kits (including tourniquets for gunshot wounds). They disabled CCTV cameras at the facility, and threw fireworks and explosives to flush the officers out for a planned massacre. When officers called 911, Lt. Thomas Gross responded. Bodycam footage shows one of the attackers yelling “get to the rifles!” as the group opened fire. Gross was shot once in the neck, with the bullet exiting through his back, but survived and continued to fight back. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention_center_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention... Beating leftists with clubs for the crime of carrying the US flag on US soil - https://www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-sanders-video-1082072 https://www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-san... (The article comes with a nice photo! Can you spot any antifa in that photo, or will you continue to play dumb?) I can keep going. If you're not convinced I can make a new post with 10x as many incidents. But it is true that there's no central antifa office with paperwork listing all their members. Nor is there one for white nationalists, but I don't see anyone arguing that doesn't exist.

baobabKoodaa 1mo ago

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tomhow 1mo ago
> fucking asshole. > Go fuck yourself, gaslighting piece of shit. This is a completely unacceptable style of commenting on HN, no matter who or what you're replying to. We've asked you before to observe the guidelines. Please take a moment to read them again and make an effort to observe them, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. If you can't make your point without being abusive, you probably don't have a good point. We have to ban accounts that continue commenting like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.