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In this case the US State Department is accurately reciting what this organization says about itself openly: https://www.inventati.org/about https://www.inventa

In this case the US State Department is accurately reciting what this organization says about itself openly: https://www.inventati.org/about https://www.inventati.org/about

culi 29d ago
> We support individuals, collectives, communities and groups whose political and social activities fit within this worldview and who share with us some fundamental principles: anti-fascism, anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-militarism. On top of that, one has to share our basic attitude towards money and the capitalistic world: a deep feeling of uneasyness and unrest. I don't see anything wrong with that. They make 0 money from this. It's 100% run by volunteers. They don't support any orgs that could afford to do it themselves. It's like if a group of you and your friends got together and gave tech support to any orgs that care about something you're passionate about (e.g. ending FPTP voting)
- baobabKoodaa 29d ago
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  - Arainach 28d ago
    Opposing fascism and racism is not "radical left". It's centrism. The State Department's words are not A/I's.
    - mlindner 28d ago
      Being against facism and racism is centrism, being part of an "anti-fascist" or "anti-racist" group is radical left. If you're part of a "group" that has stated goals of pushing something that is already a norm then its pretty clear what what you're doing is not pushing for what is already the norm as if it was the norm you wouldn't need to push for it.
      - baobabKoodaa 28d ago
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      - strbean 28d ago
        Checks notes Okay, so the chamber of commerce is a radical organisation, got it.
      - baobabKoodaa 26d ago
        Hey, I'm sorry about my other message. I tried to tell another user in this thread to go f* themselves, and I seem to have accidentally clicked the wrong "reply" link in the tree and so my message went to you instead. What you write here is reasonable.
    - jpcfl 28d ago
      Antifa is not centrist
      - inigyou 28d ago
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        like_any_other 28d ago
        Just call your group "the anti-bad guy good guy club", and then by definition everything you do is good and centrist. Therefore the following is centrism: An Oregon leftist and antifa ideologue seeking to stop Immigration and Customs Enforcement was arrested on Feb. 4 over a manifesto and weapons procurement plan detailing his desire to stalk federal agents at the Portland ICE facility to their homes and kill them. - https://www.ngocomment.com/p/leftist-extremist-arrested-over-plot https://www.ngocomment.com/p/leftist-extremist-arrested-over... 33 anti-Israel protesters get slap on the wrist for causing $1M in damage to U. of Washington science building - https://nypost.com/2026/03/04/us-news/33-anti-israel-protesters-get-slap-on-the-wrist-for-causing-1m-in-damage-to-university-of-washington/ https://nypost.com/2026/03/04/us-news/33-anti-israel-protest... A German interior minister and author for "Das Antifa Magazin" said asylum seekers should have the right to vote after 6 months on German soil, and called for mass censorship - https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/auslaender-sollen-in-deutschland-waehlen-faeser-will-stimmrecht-fuer-fluechtling-85454442.bild.html https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/auslaender... Stabbing black conservatives - https://thepostmillennial.com/andy-ngo-reports-no-prison-time-for-pedophile-portland-antifa-member-who-pleaded-guilty-to-stabbing-black-conservative-at-2020-riot https://thepostmillennial.com/andy-ngo-reports-no-prison-tim... Mobs physically attacking political candidates - https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/bordeaux-un-candidat-rn-aux-legislatives-passe-a-tabac-20220710/ https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/bordeaux-un-candidat-rn... Making people who condemn arson unemployable - https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-choral-composer-antifa-blm-gia/ https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-ch... On the night of July 4, 2025, 11 members of a North Texas Antifa cell carried out a coordinated attack on the Prairieland Detention Center. Earlier that day, they had conducted reconnaissance (including reporting on security of the facility), and had assembled a cache of dozens of firearms. The group planned the attack ahead of time, including a “gear check” where the leader discussed bringing rifles and ominously “not getting arrested.” They dressed in black uniforms and brought 11 firearms, body armor, and military-grade first aid kits (including tourniquets for gunshot wounds). They disabled CCTV cameras at the facility, and threw fireworks and explosives to flush the officers out for a planned massacre. When officers called 911, Lt. Thomas Gross responded. Bodycam footage shows one of the attackers yelling “get to the rifles!” as the group opened fire. Gross was shot once in the neck, with the bullet exiting through his back, but survived and continued to fight back. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention_center_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention... Beating leftists with clubs for the crime of carrying the US flag on US soil - https://www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-sanders-video-1082072 https://www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-san... (The article comes with a nice photo! Can you spot any antifa in that photo, or will you continue to play dumb?) I can keep going. If you're not convinced I can make a new post with 10x as many incidents. But it is true that there's no central antifa office with paperwork listing all their members. Nor is there one for white nationalists, but I don't see anyone arguing that doesn't exist.
    - baobabKoodaa 28d ago
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      - tomhow 27d ago
        > fucking asshole. > Go fuck yourself, gaslighting piece of shit. This is a completely unacceptable style of commenting on HN, no matter who or what you're replying to. We've asked you before to observe the guidelines. Please take a moment to read them again and make an effort to observe them, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. If you can't make your point without being abusive, you probably don't have a good point. We have to ban accounts that continue commenting like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
  - culi 28d ago
    No of course I don't. The State Department is alleging terrorism. In their own words they are alleging anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-war, anti-fascism, etc. How could you possibly equate those?
    - baobabKoodaa 28d ago
      I have never equated those.
      - Arainach 28d ago
        > is accurately reciting what this organization says about itself openly Declaring that the State Department's language is "accurately reciting" is equating.
        baobabKoodaa 26d ago
        > Declaring that the State Department's language is "accurately reciting" is equating. Now you are just imagining the word "terrorism" into a sentence that does not include the word "terrorism". As a reminder, here is the sentence we are discussing: "The A/I Collective exclusively offers its tools and services to radical left-wing actors and manually vets all potential users for ideological affinity before granting them access to its infrastructure."
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  - inigyou 28d ago
    "radical left" is not an accurate recitation of "anti-racist, anti-sexist"
    - baobabKoodaa 26d ago
      > "radical left" is not an accurate recitation of "anti-racist, anti-sexist" Gaslighting again. The quote was "anti-fascism, anti-racism, anti-sexism". See how you "accidentally" forgot to mention "anti-fascism" in there? This organization is actively supporting Antifa. Antifa is a prototypical example of what people mean when they talk about "radical left".

In this case the US State Department is accurately reciting what this organization says about itself openly: https://www.inventati.org/about https://www.inventati.org/about

culi 29d ago

> We support individuals, collectives, communities and groups whose political and social activities fit within this worldview and who share with us some fundamental principles: anti-fascism, anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-militarism. On top of that, one has to share our basic attitude towards money and the capitalistic world: a deep feeling of uneasyness and unrest. I don't see anything wrong with that. They make 0 money from this. It's 100% run by volunteers. They don't support any orgs that could afford to do it themselves. It's like if a group of you and your friends got together and gave tech support to any orgs that care about something you're passionate about (e.g. ending FPTP voting)

baobabKoodaa 29d ago
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- Arainach 28d ago
  Opposing fascism and racism is not "radical left". It's centrism. The State Department's words are not A/I's.
  - mlindner 28d ago
    Being against facism and racism is centrism, being part of an "anti-fascist" or "anti-racist" group is radical left. If you're part of a "group" that has stated goals of pushing something that is already a norm then its pretty clear what what you're doing is not pushing for what is already the norm as if it was the norm you wouldn't need to push for it.
    - baobabKoodaa 28d ago
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    - strbean 28d ago
      Checks notes Okay, so the chamber of commerce is a radical organisation, got it.
    - baobabKoodaa 26d ago
      Hey, I'm sorry about my other message. I tried to tell another user in this thread to go f* themselves, and I seem to have accidentally clicked the wrong "reply" link in the tree and so my message went to you instead. What you write here is reasonable.
  - jpcfl 28d ago
    Antifa is not centrist
    - inigyou 28d ago
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      - like_any_other 28d ago
        Just call your group "the anti-bad guy good guy club", and then by definition everything you do is good and centrist. Therefore the following is centrism: An Oregon leftist and antifa ideologue seeking to stop Immigration and Customs Enforcement was arrested on Feb. 4 over a manifesto and weapons procurement plan detailing his desire to stalk federal agents at the Portland ICE facility to their homes and kill them. - https://www.ngocomment.com/p/leftist-extremist-arrested-over-plot https://www.ngocomment.com/p/leftist-extremist-arrested-over... 33 anti-Israel protesters get slap on the wrist for causing $1M in damage to U. of Washington science building - https://nypost.com/2026/03/04/us-news/33-anti-israel-protesters-get-slap-on-the-wrist-for-causing-1m-in-damage-to-university-of-washington/ https://nypost.com/2026/03/04/us-news/33-anti-israel-protest... A German interior minister and author for "Das Antifa Magazin" said asylum seekers should have the right to vote after 6 months on German soil, and called for mass censorship - https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/auslaender-sollen-in-deutschland-waehlen-faeser-will-stimmrecht-fuer-fluechtling-85454442.bild.html https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/auslaender... Stabbing black conservatives - https://thepostmillennial.com/andy-ngo-reports-no-prison-time-for-pedophile-portland-antifa-member-who-pleaded-guilty-to-stabbing-black-conservative-at-2020-riot https://thepostmillennial.com/andy-ngo-reports-no-prison-tim... Mobs physically attacking political candidates - https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/bordeaux-un-candidat-rn-aux-legislatives-passe-a-tabac-20220710/ https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/bordeaux-un-candidat-rn... Making people who condemn arson unemployable - https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-choral-composer-antifa-blm-gia/ https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-ch... On the night of July 4, 2025, 11 members of a North Texas Antifa cell carried out a coordinated attack on the Prairieland Detention Center. Earlier that day, they had conducted reconnaissance (including reporting on security of the facility), and had assembled a cache of dozens of firearms. The group planned the attack ahead of time, including a “gear check” where the leader discussed bringing rifles and ominously “not getting arrested.” They dressed in black uniforms and brought 11 firearms, body armor, and military-grade first aid kits (including tourniquets for gunshot wounds). They disabled CCTV cameras at the facility, and threw fireworks and explosives to flush the officers out for a planned massacre. When officers called 911, Lt. Thomas Gross responded. Bodycam footage shows one of the attackers yelling “get to the rifles!” as the group opened fire. Gross was shot once in the neck, with the bullet exiting through his back, but survived and continued to fight back. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention_center_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention... Beating leftists with clubs for the crime of carrying the US flag on US soil - https://www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-sanders-video-1082072 https://www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-san... (The article comes with a nice photo! Can you spot any antifa in that photo, or will you continue to play dumb?) I can keep going. If you're not convinced I can make a new post with 10x as many incidents. But it is true that there's no central antifa office with paperwork listing all their members. Nor is there one for white nationalists, but I don't see anyone arguing that doesn't exist.
  - baobabKoodaa 28d ago
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    - tomhow 27d ago
      > fucking asshole. > Go fuck yourself, gaslighting piece of shit. This is a completely unacceptable style of commenting on HN, no matter who or what you're replying to. We've asked you before to observe the guidelines. Please take a moment to read them again and make an effort to observe them, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. If you can't make your point without being abusive, you probably don't have a good point. We have to ban accounts that continue commenting like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- culi 28d ago
  No of course I don't. The State Department is alleging terrorism. In their own words they are alleging anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-war, anti-fascism, etc. How could you possibly equate those?
  - baobabKoodaa 28d ago
    I have never equated those.
    - Arainach 28d ago
      > is accurately reciting what this organization says about itself openly Declaring that the State Department's language is "accurately reciting" is equating.
      - baobabKoodaa 26d ago
        > Declaring that the State Department's language is "accurately reciting" is equating. Now you are just imagining the word "terrorism" into a sentence that does not include the word "terrorism". As a reminder, here is the sentence we are discussing: "The A/I Collective exclusively offers its tools and services to radical left-wing actors and manually vets all potential users for ideological affinity before granting them access to its infrastructure."
- deleted 28d ago
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- inigyou 28d ago
  "radical left" is not an accurate recitation of "anti-racist, anti-sexist"
  - baobabKoodaa 26d ago
    > "radical left" is not an accurate recitation of "anti-racist, anti-sexist" Gaslighting again. The quote was "anti-fascism, anti-racism, anti-sexism". See how you "accidentally" forgot to mention "anti-fascism" in there? This organization is actively supporting Antifa. Antifa is a prototypical example of what people mean when they talk about "radical left".