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Do you have an example of how supporting a keyboard shortcut for every action could be bad for a general audience?
by oneeyedpigeon 1mo ago
Do you have an example of how supporting a keyboard shortcut for every action could be bad for a general audience?
- Telaneo 1mo agoDevil's advocate: showing the relevant keyboard shortcuts in the UI can be overwhelming (or at least one of many parts that all together become overwhelming) to new users, while not having them shown at all makes them undiscoverable. I think this is a bad reason. Even MS Office has made this work. But I've seen people act on this type of argument. If nothing else, it should be possible to have a settings menu where you can define your own. Even if no shortcuts are set by default and they aren't shown anywhere else in the UI, it will still be possible for a power user to make the best use of the program.
- marcosdumay 1mo ago> showing the relevant keyboard shortcuts in the UI can be overwhelming Every application did it for decades after the first Xerox guidelines up until Microsoft and Apple decided to retire the concept of usability some time around 2010.
- toast0 1mo ago> showing the relevant keyboard shortcuts in the UI can be overwhelming Underlining the accelerator key is subtle and shouldn't be overwelming. Keyboard navigation unaware users probably won't even notice.
- Telaneo 1mo agoThis works poorly if you intend to localise your application. Great if you don't though.
- wtallis 1mo agoIt sounds like your complaint might be that it works poorly if you half-ass the localization process and assume that literal translation of strings is most or all of what localization means.
- Telaneo 1mo agoI'm not sure how you read that from my comment. To be fair to your point though, that's what most localisation of programs are these days.
- mixmastamyk 1mo agoWindows did both successfully.
- Telaneo 1mo agoI can't remember an example that didn't also include the shortcut written in full, but I might just be drawing a blank here. Care to give an example?
- mixmastamyk 1mo agoWasn't easy to find! https://www.augenbit.de/wiki/images/5/57/Arbeitsplatz.png https://www.augenbit.de/wiki/images/5/57/Arbeitsplatz.png
- jakzurr 1mo agoYup, pretty sure I've seen the same sorts of things using Asian characters.
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- prmoustache 1mo ago> Devil's advocate: showing the relevant keyboard shortcuts in the UI can be overwhelming That is not a requirement, having access to menus, a master help shortcut ir fuzzy search actions shorcut are other options.