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> Currently we face three major types of terror groups: > • Narcoterrorists and Transnational Gangs > • Legacy Islamist Terrorists > • Violent Left-Wing Extr
by MrGilbert 1mo ago
> Currently we face three major types of terror groups:
> • Narcoterrorists and Transnational Gangs
> • Legacy Islamist Terrorists
> • Violent Left-Wing Extremists, including Anarchists and Anti-Fascist
It's wild that we've hit a point where the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied.
From 2020:
> First, right-wing attacks and plots accounted for the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994. In particular, they made up a large percentage of incidents in the 1990s and 2010s. Second, the total number of right-wing attacks and plots has grown substantially during the past six years.
Source: https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states#h2-trends-in-u-s-terrorism https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-u...
- brians 1mo agoThose are largely domestic, though some have quiet foreign support. And there’s no law for designating domestic groups as terrorist. The FBI does a ton of work here though
- MrGilbert 1mo agoNot sure I understand you correctly, but in the "United States Counterterrorism Strategy 2026", they are explicitly called out as being domestic: > Additionally, we recognize that a new type of domestic terrorism has emerged, driven by violent extremists who have adopted ideologies antithetical to freedom and the American way of life. Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026-USCT-Strategy-1.pdf https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026-U...
- BryantD 1mo agoAlthough I certainly don't blame anyone for thinking of right-wing terrorism as primarily domestic, some degree of research will demonstrate the multi-national nature of the problem. We can start with The Base, founded by Rinaldo Nazzaro in 2018, the year after he moved to Russia and obtained Russian citizenship. Nazzaro is a longtime advocate of Harold Covington's Northwest Front concept -- an all-white state in the Pacific Northwest. Nazzaro purchased properties in Washington state for training purposes. The Base was active in Canada, the US, and Europe -- members were arrested for planning a mass shooting in Virginia at a gun rights rally in 2020, for planning to vandalize synagogues in Wisconsin and Michigan, and the Ukranian Base cell claimed responsibility for assassinating an intelligence officer in Ukraine's Security Service. Nazzaro remains in Russia, safe from prosecution. In 2020, Robert Rundo started the Active club network, which promotes mixed martial arts as preparation for a race war. Rundo also moved to Europe to avoid US prosecution. (He has since been extradited from Romania.) These clubs have absorbed a number of former Atomwaffen Division members. Active clubs have not gone as far into terrorism as The Base, but have played a role in a number of racially-motivated riots in the British Isles and there's some evidence of terrorist-flavored plotting among specific Active club instances. (It's worth noting that these clubs are decentralized in a similar fashion to antifa groups; Rundo is not a central authority, although he's more of a central figure than anyone who considers themselves antifa. But I want to be consistent.) Speaking of Atomwaffen -- I don't consider them as much of a threat as they were prior to 2020. However, since we're talking about foreign coordination and support, it's worth noting that they emerged from the Iron March website, which was run by Alisher Mukhitdinov, who is believed to be an Uzbek living in Russia. Mukhitdinov claims he was recruited by Aleksandr Dugin. In any case, Atomwaffen was tightly coordinating with Sonnenkrieg Division in the UK and Feuerkrieg Division in Europe. And as it faded, some members went to Europe, seeing the Ukraine (and the Azov Brigade) as a potential training ground/sanctuary. The accelerationist white supremacist movement is fundamentally international.
- nozzlegear 1mo agoThe Trump admin infamously declared Antifa a domestic terrorist organization in September 2025. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/designating-antifa-as-a-domestic-terrorist-organization/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/desi...
- tescreal 1mo agoI would read that as an endorsement by omission. Maybe too conspiratorial? I'll accept criticism, but it definitely smells like implication (especially given the hard right-turn ICE took in their choices of "apparel").
- sophacles 1mo agoIt's also worth noting that the idea of Antifa as any sort of organization is 100% shitty fiction. It's a fucking hashtag (and the spiritual predecessors of hastags like email label, etc for the years prior). Anyone organizing or "promoting" an event (demonstration, protest, whatever) would label it antifa if they felt that the people who were strongly opposed to fascism would find it worthwhile to support the cause. Yes there are people out there who primarily focused on supporting anything that opposed fascism, and weirdly some of them know each other. (Strange things happen when people congregate, some of them talk to each other and even form friendships... shocking I know). The idea that its anything other than people in a scene knowing each other is just as dumb as people saying OSS is a terrorist organization because Anonymous released loic under a public domain license.
- philipallstar 1mo agoYes, and Isis is a bunch of independent cells held together by an ideology too.
- rithdmc 1mo agoIs Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness a bunch of independent cells held together by an ideology... or is it just an ideology?
- philipallstar 1mo agoI guess it depends on how you define ideology, but I suppose I mean a more killing-based belief. "Rich Jews are to blame for all of Germany's problems" or "Death to the West" or "From the river to the sea" are statements with murder as the goal, as is "Everyone I disagree with is a Nazi and also it's fine to kill a Nazi".
- sophacles 1mo agoSo is Christianity and the GOP. What's your point?
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- icase 1mo ago“legacy” islamist terrorists? as if a violent ideology that’s been around for centuries simply gets deprecated like IE6? if only it were that easy.
- redsocksfan45 1mo ago[dead]
- aaa_aaa 1mo ago"terrorism" is a racket. Also, it is nothing compared to what US and others did to other countries. Yes, scale matters. So please.
- icase 1mo agoomg whataboutism is so fucking lame
- genxy 1mo agoBecause the non-legacy Religious Terrorists get invited to the whitehouse. What makes them legacy is not sucking up to Trump.
- tinfoilhatter 1mo agoInteresting how Jewish terrorists aren't mentioned, even though Israel has a long and storied history of engaging in terrorism. I guess it's such a legacy that it's not even brought up anymore? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_state-sponsored_terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_state-sponsored_ter...
- icase 1mo ago[flagged]
- tinfoilhatter 1mo agoKind of like how you were just doing muslims muslims muslims MUSLIMS!
- kolektiv 1mo agoAlso wild that they're willing to just put "Anti-Fascist" in there as the enemy - if you're anti-anti-fascist, that's kind of hiding in plain sight, as if they weren't already. Simply staggering to think that in such a short space of time a country can head off the rails quite so much, but it should be instructional - whenever you look at history, the collapse often happens slowly - and then all at once...
- philipallstar 1mo ago[flagged]
- ModernMech 1mo agoFascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition I fail to see how the term is being misused when applied to the current administration.
- philipallstar 1mo agoNeither party exalts the nation above the individual. And the Democrats are the race is more important than individuals - that's what identity politics is. But I wouldn't call it fascism still.
- nkmnz 1mo ago"Anti-Fascism" is not an objective terminology to describe a stance against fascism. There are a million ways in which you can oppose fascism, most of which follow democratic traditions of the social, classical liberal, or conservative flavor. Antifascism is a self-designation of popcultural dimensions, similar to a Che Guevara shirt. It can be appropriated by anybody who's willing to sign off on the same vague image of an enemy. I have no idea if there are, indeed, terroristic cells in the US that appropriated the brand of Antifascism, but there are some in Germany[0][1]. But more interestingly, the brand hasn't always been free of ownership: it was first created by the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) in 1932 as a part of their internal and external stalinisation and their adoption of authoritarian structures and policies, which started from 1928 under the influence of the USSR. During that time, KPD proclaimed the main fascist adversary to be no other than the Social Democrats (SPD): "Stalinisation of the KPD began under the leadership of Ernst Thälmann. Freedom of discussion and internal democracy were replaced piece by piece by (...) authoritarian leadership. (...) in 1929 Thälmann and Stalin agreed upon an ultra-left course against the SPD, concluding that the Social Democrats represented a form of 'social fascism'. (...) The theory of social fascism dictated that Nazis and Social Democrats were essentially two sides of the same coin. The primary enemy of the Communists was supposedly the Social Democrats" [2] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_left-wing_extremism_trial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_left-wing_extremism_tr... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Complex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Complex [2] https://isj.org.uk/divided-they-fell-the-german-left-and-the-rise-of-hitler/ https://isj.org.uk/divided-they-fell-the-german-left-and-the...
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- rightbyte 1mo ago> The we take the far-left killings like the assassination of the (maybe despicable) Charlie Kirk and the Trump assassination attempts (with a 's') and Luigi Mangione killing a CEO... I have no recollection of any of those perps being left-wing. Apolitical and centrists.
- sigmar 1mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_in_Pennsylvania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Don... what evidence is there that this registered republican was "far left"?
- Joker_vD 1mo agoWell, there is apparently no evidence that he was "far right" either. So far, investigators haven't found any evidence on social media or other writings by Crooks that might help identify his motive for the attempted assassination, law enforcement officials say... And a review of public records suggests he may have had divergent political leanings, with Crooks registering to vote as a Republican but making a small donation to a Democratic-leaning group.
- watutalkinbout 1mo agoMate.
- titularcomment 1mo agoThat last sentence is a straight-up threat.
- watutalkinbout 1mo agoBloke's a melon.
- philipallstar 1mo ago> It's wild that we've hit a point where the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied. It's not denied; it's just that anyone vaguely right wing who kills is classified as a right wing terror attack. Right wing terror is constantly talked about, so it may appear bigger than it is. Whereas in terms of groups or common causes, the three listed are much bigger. Why is it healthcare CEOs, presidents and campus debaters all be shot at (and killed in 2 of those cases) and the shootings be celebrated by so many on the left, and well into the mainstream? There's no right wing equivalent any more.
- watutalkinbout 1mo ago"it may appear bigger than it is" Except that it's by far the largest in the US based on the data.
- zmgsabst 1mo agoWho have they assassinated in the last 10 years? We have leftwing examples from Charlie Kirk for speech to the live-streamed execution of Antonio Mays Jr for joyriding on leftwing militia turf.
- thunderfork 1mo agoSee table here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#Additional_reports https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#Additiona...
- watutalkinbout 1mo agoI don't think even most of the right in the US believe Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk, based on the volume of conspiracy stuff I've seen. I know he hasn't been convicted, and unless I'm wrong, federal investigators have found no confirmed ties to organised left wing groups. Antonio Mays Jr's killing is still unsolved. Check the data, it's not a secret. https://ibb.co/R4b32CWy https://ibb.co/R4b32CWy The extreme right massively outperforms the left, which I'm sure is in part due to the right wing obsession with owning as much stuff as possible to kill people with as you can.
- ochoseis 1mo agoCSIS has an updated report. While right wing extremism was more prevalent in the decade up to 2024, it dropped significantly in 2025 for unclear reasons. https://www.csis.org/analysis/left-wing-terrorism-and-political-violence-united-states-what-data-tells-us https://www.csis.org/analysis/left-wing-terrorism-and-politi...
- boesboes 1mo agoThey all be working for ICE
- diydsp 1mo agoLooking closelier at their data, it's only up to 7/25. It doesnt include two right wing attacks that took place shortly after that: 1. An anti-LGBTQ plot targeting a Texas pride parade 2. The attack on a Michigan Mormon congregation. Also csis states "the fall in right-wing violence is likely temporary"
- diydsp 1mo agoAh. The old hn downvotearoo in response to objective facts that clarify a mystery.
- asveikau 1mo agoYes, anyone who has been paying attention knows that this administration has been designating people who disagree with them politically or socially, or in some cases groups like antifa that don't really exist, as terrorist groups. This substantially escalated with nspm7 as reported by Ken Klippenstein.
- tinfoilhatter 1mo agoAntifa doesn't really exist? Please explain people waving antifa flags, wearing antifa badges / clothing, putting antifa in their social media profiles? With this kind of logic, no terrorist group really exists.
- buttercraft 1mo agoThere was a pride festival recently during which people were wearing rainbow clothing and waving flags. Do you think all of those people are part of an organization with leaders and "cells" or whatever? Or, maybe, they were all just expressing the same sentiment and using flags and colors and badges to do it?
- ranger_danger 1mo agoI think they mean it is not an "organization" in the sense that there is no structure or hierarchy, no boss, no headquarters etc. They might as well be called "Anonymous".
- tinfoilhatter 1mo agoOkay - but Antifa is still a thing, it exists. There are antifa telegram groups, there were people that identified as being antifa who came together and attacked immigration and customs enforcement officers and are in prison for it. The statement that antifa doesn't exist is not the same statement as antifa is not a hierarchal or centralized organization. Also, just FYI, one of the more prominent early members of the hacker collective anonymous was a federal informant named Aubrey Cottle (aka Kirtaner) who was a long-time Something Awful forum member with a very sordid past. Anonymous really wasn't that anonymous - it was full of feds and essentially a psyop.
- hulitu 1mo ago> the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied. It is called "democracy" nowadays.