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Autistici/Inventati's main .org domain goes dark after US terrorism designation
- ChrisArchitect 1mo ago[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49477854 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49477854
- asveikau 1mo agoI had no idea what this is, Google said: > Autistici/Inventati provides internet support to activists and collectives coming from the world of grassroot and social movements. US administration says: > https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616 https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616 > ... an Italy-based entity that supplies specialized digital architecture, tools, and services for Antifa cells and other violent far-left extremists ...
- rithdmc 1mo agoThere have been some posts here lately. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49464391 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49464391 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49451343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49451343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49477854 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49477854
- MrGilbert 1mo ago> Currently we face three major types of terror groups: > • Narcoterrorists and Transnational Gangs > • Legacy Islamist Terrorists > • Violent Left-Wing Extremists, including Anarchists and Anti-Fascist It's wild that we've hit a point where the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied. From 2020: > First, right-wing attacks and plots accounted for the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994. In particular, they made up a large percentage of incidents in the 1990s and 2010s. Second, the total number of right-wing attacks and plots has grown substantially during the past six years. Source: https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states#h2-trends-in-u-s-terrorism https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-u...
- brians 1mo agoThose are largely domestic, though some have quiet foreign support. And there’s no law for designating domestic groups as terrorist. The FBI does a ton of work here though
- MrGilbert 1mo agoNot sure I understand you correctly, but in the "United States Counterterrorism Strategy 2026", they are explicitly called out as being domestic: > Additionally, we recognize that a new type of domestic terrorism has emerged, driven by violent extremists who have adopted ideologies antithetical to freedom and the American way of life. Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026-USCT-Strategy-1.pdf https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026-U...
- BryantD 1mo agoAlthough I certainly don't blame anyone for thinking of right-wing terrorism as primarily domestic, some degree of research will demonstrate the multi-national nature of the problem. We can start with The Base, founded by Rinaldo Nazzaro in 2018, the year after he moved to Russia and obtained Russian citizenship. Nazzaro is a longtime advocate of Harold Covington's Northwest Front concept -- an all-white state in the Pacific Northwest. Nazzaro purchased properties in Washington state for training purposes. The Base was active in Canada, the US, and Europe -- members were arrested for planning a mass shooting in Virginia at a gun rights rally in 2020, for planning to vandalize synagogues in Wisconsin and Michigan, and the Ukranian Base cell claimed responsibility for assassinating an intelligence officer in Ukraine's Security Service. Nazzaro remains in Russia, safe from prosecution. In 2020, Robert Rundo started the Active club network, which promotes mixed martial arts as preparation for a race war. Rundo also moved to Europe to avoid US prosecution. (He has since been extradited from Romania.) These clubs have absorbed a number of former Atomwaffen Division members. Active clubs have not gone as far into terrorism as The Base, but have played a role in a number of racially-motivated riots in the British Isles and there's some evidence of terrorist-flavored plotting among specific Active club instances. (It's worth noting that these clubs are decentralized in a similar fashion to antifa groups; Rundo is not a central authority, although he's more of a central figure than anyone who considers themselves antifa. But I want to be consistent.) Speaking of Atomwaffen -- I don't consider them as much of a threat as they were prior to 2020. However, since we're talking about foreign coordination and support, it's worth noting that they emerged from the Iron March website, which was run by Alisher Mukhitdinov, who is believed to be an Uzbek living in Russia. Mukhitdinov claims he was recruited by Aleksandr Dugin. In any case, Atomwaffen was tightly coordinating with Sonnenkrieg Division in the UK and Feuerkrieg Division in Europe. And as it faded, some members went to Europe, seeing the Ukraine (and the Azov Brigade) as a potential training ground/sanctuary. The accelerationist white supremacist movement is fundamentally international.
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- foul 1mo ago>free individuals lol
- SSLy 1mo agowhoo hooo, I've had an unused account there. guess I'm on yet another list, woe betide me.
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- K0balt 1mo agolol. In case you didn’t notice, dissent is terrorism, failure to kiss the ring is treason, and if you want to play in the US market there are some cryptocurrency purchases you might want to do, as a hedge against unfavorable tariffs. Also, for only 100KUSD you can join the official US insider trading chat. I wish any of this was an exaggeration.
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- stackbutterflow 1mo agoI wonder if there are Americans on hn who already self censor their criticism of the Trump regime because they're scared of reprisals.
- Exoristos 1mo agoNo?
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- nozzlegear 1mo agoTrump can suck a fart out of my butt.
- K0balt 1mo agoIdk, but this comes off as a subtle but chilling warning, so I’d say yes?
- idiotsecant 1mo agoSo the US government now owns all emails coming into accounts on this domain.
- jabroni_salad 1mo agothis domain doesnt have an mx record at all
- idiotsecant 1mo agoOnce again, the crime is providing encrypted email accounts, chat and video conferencing. Uncle Sam really, really, really wants to terrify as many providers are possible into letting them peek into your personal correspondence. This is why decentralized end to end encryption methods are so important
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- swed420 1mo agoRelated discussion U.S. Sanctions Against the a/I Collective https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49477854 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49477854 US sanctions Italian hosting provider Autistici Inventati https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49451343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49451343 US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49464391 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49464391
- r721 1mo agoAlso >Rubio Uses Terrorism Law to Ban Secure Email Service https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49474621 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49474621
- mikojan 1mo agoEverybody and their grandmother uses their services. Are you organizing a non-profit rehearsal space? Create a mailing list there. This is grim. I guess this only works because those are foreign servers so freedom of speech does not apply but Italy is doing their bidding?
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- boesboes 1mo agoyeah, those fuckign terrorists! smh
- whatthesmack 1mo agoYou can't just shrug off a whole host of threatening and criminal behavior because you sympathize with the cause of the terrorists committing the acts. Antifa has caused a lot of damage to society, which is why they are considered a Domestic Terrorist Organization in the US and are being actively pushed back against now that their billionaire-backed funding networks have been identified.
- rambojohnson 24d agosounding like a MAGA bootlicking conspiracy theorist. what kind of damage are you even talking about? pull your head out of your ass.
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- judiisis 1mo agobasically they provide self hosted foss encrypted services which the US Govt didnt like https://www.inventati.org/services/ https://www.inventati.org/services/
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- RobotToaster 1mo agoWhat do we do now it's becoming clear that ICANN can't be trusted?
- tmaly 1mo agowhat ever happened to the idea of DNS on the blockchain?
- progval 1mo agoICANN can't suspend second-level domains, this is up to the owner of .org (the Public Interest Registry) or the registrar of the particular domain (Gandi).
- N19PEDL2 1mo agoMaybe they can now move to a .it subdomain, since they are not designated as a terrorist organization in Italy.
- netrap 1mo agoThat makes the most sense to me. Although, I don't know if .org is subject to US law specifically? Is it?
- bortzmeyer 1mo agoPIR, the registry of .org is an US company, so clearly subject to US laws and Trump's explosions.
- silvanocerza 1mo agoThe .it in the past forced you to have public whois data, this changed in recent years thanks to GDPR. Probably they chose .org when they created the organization at the time.
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- 15feetOfclay 1mo agoAhem... are you joking?
- deadbunny 1mo agoThey're LARPing, must have escaped from Twitter
- lifestyleguru 1mo agoAmerican lunatics fighting with Italian punkabbestia on a yacht, all surrounded with confetti from Russian money. You guys want some prosecco?
- kome 1mo agowow. your comment is also lunacy, tbh. autistici runs at a small deficit and is a passion project. so they are “yacht people” because they have some computers, a godforsaken server somewhere, and maybe an iphone? and where the hell is this russian money supposed to be? your fantasy-world ideas do not help anyone grasp the gravity of the situation. they only show that you have zero facts and are filling the gap with random cartoon nonsense. but sure, censorship of extremely small groups is becoming the norm, and you are here celebrating because the targets are communists, not your kind. where do you think this will lead?
- nazgulsenpai 1mo agoWe are still living in the shadow of the world the Patriot Act created and continues to shape. The most consequential legislation of my lifetime.
- poetaster 1mo agoIs it just dark on the NA side if the pond? I still see it just fine...
- berkes 24d agoThis is much bigger than the banning of a volunteer webhost. It shows the US government won't go through usual channels when Europeans do things that under european law, are probably¹ allowed. It shows, again, that US infrastructure is unreliable (in a non-technical sense) and is everywhere. An Italian bank "sacrificed" their customer because of the risk of losing access to Visa/USD network for international payments. The I in ICANN is not. It is US. Etc. ¹maybe they did break laws. In which case the US would usually ask Italy to deal with it. But either the US government decided this is too much hassle, or they knew Italy wasn't going to help, because under Italian law, everything was fine: we'll never know. But we do know that the US government will reach into European countries to stop NGOs operating there.