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Which places have you found? I'm in Canada and figured most of the places are going to suffer more rain falling in the next decades.

1attice 1mo ago
Not unexpectedly, follow real estate prices. The average value of homes in safe parts of Canada has risen significantly. E.g. Vancouver is devastatingly expensive, while nearby Abbotsford and Richmond are floodplains and reclaimed marsh, respectively, and are cheap. Sometimes uninsurable, but cheap. The market will price us all out of the safest places and indeed arguably already has. Expect housing values to continue to diverge. A dry hovel is superior to the mightiest of flooded manses, but a home in a dry, safe metropolis, with enough water for all? Literally invaluable. It will be priced accordingly.
kulahan 1mo ago
Personally, I'm aiming for Pittsburgh.
stackskipton 1mo ago
Great Lakes area is probably well positioned.
- nostrademons 1mo ago
  Everybody is saying that the Great Lakes region is a climate haven, but it's intensely vulnerable to both polar vortex events coming down from Canada and wet-bulb heat waves coming up from the Gulf of Mexico. The middle of America is flat; there is no natural barrier to stop a frigid or sweltering airmass from moving in. This has already happened multiple times within just the last few years. In terms of death toll, a power outage during a severe deep freeze (with subzero temperatures and -50 wind chills) or a wet bulb event has a far greater lethality potential than wildfires. The most deadly wildfire in California history was the Camp fire that leveled the town of Paradise; it caused 85 deaths. The Oakland Hills firestorm of 1989, immortalized in SimCity and several made-for-TV movies, only caused 25 deaths. By contrast, the 1995 Chicago heat wave caused 740 fatalities, and even the 2024 polar vortex event that barely made headlines killed more people (90) than the Camp Fire. (Also note the low absolute numbers of even very severe, headline-grabbing natural disasters in developed countries. And that good construction can mitigate almost all of them. You are probably better off, in strict actuarial terms, by settling in a place where you can make a lot of money and then using it to prepare your home for disaster than by settling in a place that is cheaper but where you can't afford the latest building technology.)
- ferguess_k 1mo ago
  I think they have their fair share of snow storms during the winter because of the vortex coming from the West. The vortex goes down from Alaska because the mountains block it, and then it turns east and goes straight to the lake area. I live in Montreal, but sometimes I see bitter weathers in Toronto during the winter. Ofc we have our share of pain, but I'm fine with snow -- raining is a huge problem in recent years -- I'm installing a French Drain right now, and hopefully it offers enough protection. However, my house is sitting on top of clay, so that could be a big issue.
  - dredmorbius 1mo ago
    Snow can be annoying but is rarely catastrophic. Somewhat more concerning is that tornado frequency is increasing at a ferocious rate, though most are relatively minor (EF-0 / EF-1). The total for 2026 to date is 207 ground tracks (as of 27 Aug 2026). The previous full year record was 142, and the historical average (again full-year) is closer to 50. This has knock-on effects to insurance as well as raising home and landscaping repair (downed trees, etc.). <https://chicago.suntimes.com/environment/2026/08/27/200-tornadoes-illinois-2026 https://chicago.suntimes.com/environment/2026/08/27/200-torn...> Flash-flooding is also an increasing concern, though unlike Nepal, water channels tend to be largely flat. Urban creeks, local rivers, retention ponds, and low-lying locations (underpasses, local low spots) may experience flooding, though generally flow strength is low. Basement flooding is the most likely risk.
debo_ 1mo ago
I have spoken to quite a few real estate agents in Sudbury who mentioned folks are buying property there as a hedge against climate change.
ifwinterco 1mo ago
Cities in the tropics at high altitude far from the sea like Bogotá, Medellín, maybe even Mexico City. Maybe some moderately increased risk of extreme rainfall causing localised flooding, mudslides etc, but Bogotá in particular has an incredibly mild climate year round, and you're at 2600m so you aren't too worried about sea level risk. As far as I'm aware basically no risk from hurricanes, tornados or anything like that. Biggest risk is earthquakes which is nothing to do with climate change and can be mitigated. In fact Bogotá is a bit chilly so might be nice if it was slightly warmer. For some reason people assume that climate change means you need to move closer to the poles, but moving to higher elevation is much better
- kakacik 29d ago
  Yeah but then you have drug cartels and corresponding violence, kidnappings etc. Questionable healthcare, nothing social. Its nice for a short visit for some, but long term? You wanna live behind a fancy fence? Plus its malaric jungle, so mosquitos can kill you day(dengue ones) and night. Thats not a definition of move to a better place by any means, unless you come from say Bangladesh.

1attice 1mo ago

Not unexpectedly, follow real estate prices. The average value of homes in safe parts of Canada has risen significantly. E.g. Vancouver is devastatingly expensive, while nearby Abbotsford and Richmond are floodplains and reclaimed marsh, respectively, and are cheap. Sometimes uninsurable, but cheap. The market will price us all out of the safest places and indeed arguably already has. Expect housing values to continue to diverge. A dry hovel is superior to the mightiest of flooded manses, but a home in a dry, safe metropolis, with enough water for all? Literally invaluable. It will be priced accordingly.

kulahan 1mo ago

Personally, I'm aiming for Pittsburgh.

stackskipton 1mo ago

Great Lakes area is probably well positioned.

nostrademons 1mo ago
Everybody is saying that the Great Lakes region is a climate haven, but it's intensely vulnerable to both polar vortex events coming down from Canada and wet-bulb heat waves coming up from the Gulf of Mexico. The middle of America is flat; there is no natural barrier to stop a frigid or sweltering airmass from moving in. This has already happened multiple times within just the last few years. In terms of death toll, a power outage during a severe deep freeze (with subzero temperatures and -50 wind chills) or a wet bulb event has a far greater lethality potential than wildfires. The most deadly wildfire in California history was the Camp fire that leveled the town of Paradise; it caused 85 deaths. The Oakland Hills firestorm of 1989, immortalized in SimCity and several made-for-TV movies, only caused 25 deaths. By contrast, the 1995 Chicago heat wave caused 740 fatalities, and even the 2024 polar vortex event that barely made headlines killed more people (90) than the Camp Fire. (Also note the low absolute numbers of even very severe, headline-grabbing natural disasters in developed countries. And that good construction can mitigate almost all of them. You are probably better off, in strict actuarial terms, by settling in a place where you can make a lot of money and then using it to prepare your home for disaster than by settling in a place that is cheaper but where you can't afford the latest building technology.)
ferguess_k 1mo ago
I think they have their fair share of snow storms during the winter because of the vortex coming from the West. The vortex goes down from Alaska because the mountains block it, and then it turns east and goes straight to the lake area. I live in Montreal, but sometimes I see bitter weathers in Toronto during the winter. Ofc we have our share of pain, but I'm fine with snow -- raining is a huge problem in recent years -- I'm installing a French Drain right now, and hopefully it offers enough protection. However, my house is sitting on top of clay, so that could be a big issue.
- dredmorbius 1mo ago
  Snow can be annoying but is rarely catastrophic. Somewhat more concerning is that tornado frequency is increasing at a ferocious rate, though most are relatively minor (EF-0 / EF-1). The total for 2026 to date is 207 ground tracks (as of 27 Aug 2026). The previous full year record was 142, and the historical average (again full-year) is closer to 50. This has knock-on effects to insurance as well as raising home and landscaping repair (downed trees, etc.). <https://chicago.suntimes.com/environment/2026/08/27/200-tornadoes-illinois-2026 https://chicago.suntimes.com/environment/2026/08/27/200-torn...> Flash-flooding is also an increasing concern, though unlike Nepal, water channels tend to be largely flat. Urban creeks, local rivers, retention ponds, and low-lying locations (underpasses, local low spots) may experience flooding, though generally flow strength is low. Basement flooding is the most likely risk.

debo_ 1mo ago

I have spoken to quite a few real estate agents in Sudbury who mentioned folks are buying property there as a hedge against climate change.

ifwinterco 1mo ago

Cities in the tropics at high altitude far from the sea like Bogotá, Medellín, maybe even Mexico City. Maybe some moderately increased risk of extreme rainfall causing localised flooding, mudslides etc, but Bogotá in particular has an incredibly mild climate year round, and you're at 2600m so you aren't too worried about sea level risk. As far as I'm aware basically no risk from hurricanes, tornados or anything like that. Biggest risk is earthquakes which is nothing to do with climate change and can be mitigated. In fact Bogotá is a bit chilly so might be nice if it was slightly warmer. For some reason people assume that climate change means you need to move closer to the poles, but moving to higher elevation is much better

kakacik 29d ago
Yeah but then you have drug cartels and corresponding violence, kidnappings etc. Questionable healthcare, nothing social. Its nice for a short visit for some, but long term? You wanna live behind a fancy fence? Plus its malaric jungle, so mosquitos can kill you day(dengue ones) and night. Thats not a definition of move to a better place by any means, unless you come from say Bangladesh.