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The value-add for a meatbag CEO is the physical networking they do. They have to do executive functions as well, which could quite possibly be replaced with a w
by deltarholamda 1mo ago
The value-add for a meatbag CEO is the physical networking they do. They have to do executive functions as well, which could quite possibly be replaced with a well-trained LLM and even possibly exceed in overall quality. But an LLM can't go to conferences; they can't have Top Secret Meetings where a merger or acquisition is discussed; they can't run into Jim Executive of BigCorp Inc. in Vail and scheme up some big new thing; they can't fill a room full of institutional investors with confidence that the future is looking quite rosy.
Now, one can certainly argue that all of that is bad, or not even necessary, but it is a thing they do.
But I still think this is a good project, especially if it is demonstrated to excel at some significant fraction of what a meatbag CEO does. Because meatbag CEOs need to know that they are just as vulnerable to this sort of thing as their employees they so callously discard.
- PunchyHamster 1mo agoCEO, sure, but middle manager ?
- onaclov2000 1mo agoBeing facetious of course, but didn't AI create their own reddit/chat rooms, what's stopping AI CEOs from "running into" other AI CEOs in other places?
- jezzamon 1mo agoThe lack of barrier to entry is the problem. That barrier is highly desirable in this context (for better or worse)
- smaudet 1mo agoThe lack of imagination here is the issue. I think AI bots are perfectly capable of replicating arbitrary barriers to entry, they can and will decide which (real or not) CEOs to interact with.
- literalAardvark 1mo agoNot really. Yes, it's desirable for humans because we have very limited minds. Doesn't apply to AI.
- d_burfoot 1mo ago> they can't have Top Secret Meetings where a merger or acquisition is discussed This actually seems completely doable for a properly configured LLM. There will probably be a platform in the future where companies can setup LLM to discuss business deals with other companies' LLMs and bring the resulting proposals to the human leadership. Every morning the CEO gets an email about the 3 most promising potential deals that were discussed, a summary of the big picture with TBD details highlighted, and a link to the transcript of the conversation. Plausibly the potential deal is with a company the CEO had never heard about or dealt with.
- chaostheory 1mo agoAIs have to breakthrough the threshold of controlling an important company first before it starts to matter
- jaredhallen 1mo agoHow does that work when they're both using Claude? Does it negotiate with itself?
- literalAardvark 1mo agoWhy not? They'll have significant differences in prompting and will both "want" to win.
- whattheheckheck 1mo agoAnd why dont we wear our pants on our heads and a shirt for pants?
- ngvrnd 1mo agoMeatbags can still be employed in this limited capacity, surely.
- xgkickt 1mo agoYou’d also get CEO optimization, getting them to talk about <buzzword> and how the entire company is now a <buzzword>-first business.
- danesparza 1mo ago"But an LLM can't go to conferences; they can't have Top Secret Meetings where a merger or acquisition is discussed" Sure they can - especially when conferences are designed to have an API. And when more companies are run by an AI, they will absolutely have secret meetings to discuss a merger.
- willmadden 1mo agoThe system works because it runs on human ambition. If people in power handed their control to an AI there wouldn't be companies and mergers anymore. It wouldn't make sense. That world could be great or it could be dystopian.
- Henchman21 1mo agoI would argue the world is already dystopian and that human ambition has more or less doomed the species to extinction. So anything different seems great to me! :)
- willmadden 1mo agoBe careful what you wish for.
- api 1mo agoSays someone living better than an ancient Egyptian pharaoh. Get off social media and the world is suddenly less dystopian.
- ktallett 1mo agoThat is simply a result of evolution as a species. We have oddly moved beyond where we potentially needed to be as a species for the financial benefit of a few and now we are reversing in quality of life due to the focus being on financial gain. Western citizens live a more selfish and worse life overall in terms of individual wealth, buying power, job availability, overall health, than say 20/30 years ago.
- honr 1mo agoI am not sure if that is the main value add. I have repeatedly heard that taking responsibility and being on the hook for the decisions (even if AI hands you the decision and all the research and homework that went into it) is the most important feature. I guess starting with and/or developing a good network is one of the main ways they can gain the confidence for taking responsibility.
- ilovetux 1mo agoI have yet to see a CEO actually take responsibility for anything. Its always some hand-wavey talk about strategy and unexpected decline in sales. Never once was it "I messed up." I have, on the other hand, seen boards pile all the blame onto the C-Suite. Seems easy enough to pile the blame on an AI.
- honr 1mo agoI haven't been directly involved with any large company CEOs, but the CEOs of smaller companies I have worked with have frequently been constantly dealing with responsibilities from many decisions they took (or didn't block). Some have personality traits that hide the pool of concerns beneath the surface. And a couple were genuinely taking the life in tourist mode (oblivious to any and all concerns beyond the very next steps). The "AI CEO" problem is not fundamentally different from self driving car responsibility problems. You need a big entity to be on the hook (financially and legally) if you are really going for lowered responsibility on the decision machinery. I think it can work though (but with a LOT of effort), and that might be an interesting startup idea (we provide 90% of the CEO work via AI, you be in control of the remaining 10%, and responsible for maybe 20% of it; our "insurance" covers the other 80% of the responsibility).
- MetroWind 1mo ago... unless/until all CEOs are replaced with AI.
- hoppp 1mo agoThe AI could appear on video to do physical networking
- gersh 1mo agoCan the AI CEO hire a consultant or lawyer to take care of this stuff?
- hyfgfh 1mo agoYes, any other type of psychopath or sociopath would work
- glitchbot 1mo agoCEO, the first AI, soulless automatons that do the programmers biding√π¶£.<\
- scrubs 1mo ago>Because meatbag CEOs need to know that they are just as vulnerable to this sort of thing as their employees they so callously discard. True! And true all day long
- roosterIllusi0n 1mo agoWhy should any of that be a secret? We don't have to give companies rights that normal people do not have. If there is money to be made, let two AIs discuss it. CEOs are way too corrupt and way too overpaid to be trusted. local AI wiped out one of my harddrives trying to resize it. That is less damage than a CEO can do. AI is safer than a human CEO. If we restored the 1950s tax code that discouraged mergers and kept CEOs from grifting, everything you were concerned about stops happening. Businesses were way more honest when there are thousands of local and regional competitors. Federal tax cuts let CEOs merge everything.
- Valakas_ 1mo agoNetwork issue. If we could replace all meatbag CEOs by AI CEOs, then this wouldn't be an issue. Communication and deal making would be vastly faster and more efficient.