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Nvidia for Hugging Face will be even worse than Microsoft for GitHub and we know now how low the bar is here.
by doe88 1mo ago
Nvidia for Hugging Face will be even worse than Microsoft for GitHub and we know now how low the bar is here.
- allyant 1mo agoTo be fair Microsoft haven’t done as much integration with their eco system; such as integrating it with Azure DevOps as they could. And long may it continue.
- WhereIsTheTruth 1mo agoYou missed the whole game-ification, enshitification, copilot-ification of github, and open source theft for their AI training episodes Always like that with Microsoft apologists
- allyant 1mo agoOh yes I can totally believe they use public and private repos for their model training. It is surprising they aren’t ahead of the curve for AI coding like Claude code, codex or cursor because of this.
- psma_egeliaa 1mo agoI very much doubt that. Imagine the PR nightmare and potential liability if someone managed to extract from the model credentials in a private repository.
- knocte 1mo agoNot a fan of defending GitHub, but TBH them launching GithubActions made me abandon all other CI platforms I was using in the past, I even left GitLab just for that.
- shric 1mo agoWhat sold you on GitHub Actions? The one 9 of reliability? https://www.githubstatus.com/ https://www.githubstatus.com/
- SideQuark 1mo agoNot sure what you’re intending to show. That page shows 99.5%+ uptime across all 11 of the services provided. To do that at a small company world cost significant money. To have it integrated and cheap for all those small shops is very valuable to them.
- r_lee 1mo ago99.5% uptime is nothing significant...
- newswasboring 1mo agoYeah but it's sufficient for the largest part of CI needs. Most people are making CRUD apps, 6 9s reliability is not required there.
- r_lee 1mo agonot really, I've ran into Github Action downtime and you can't run tests or anything so either you wait or you just let stuff merge and again don't know how this is acceptable in 2026, for a paid CI service and I'm not talking about 6 9s, I mean, 99.5% is terrible
- newswasboring 1mo agoA 99.5 means over one year you will need to wait about 40 hours total for the issue to be solved. What kind of high pressure crud app are you making where this is a problem?
- r_lee 1mo ago
- lynx97 1mo agoExplain to me how using OPEN source for training is theft? I've (admittedly skimmed) quite a few licenses, but I really dont remember anyone restricting reading/indexing source code?
- richrichardsson 1mo agoYou don't relinquish copyright by using a FOSS license though, right?
- nycdotnet 1mo agoMIT license includes: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. The argument is that AI models trained on open source should include the copyright info for all projects blended into the weights. And since they don’t, it violates the terms of the license.
- Dylan16807 1mo agoGithub hasn't changed that much overall. The copilot service and the training on open source would be the same if Microsoft hadn't bought GitHub, it would just be branded differently.
- cyanydeez 1mo agoHave you seen github outages?
- Dylan16807 1mo agoWell a lot of the outages are copilot which doesn't change my argument that already holds copilot separate.
- miki123211 1mo agoI heavily disagree. Nvidia has a strong interest in open source AI being a strong contender to proprietary models. They don't want a single AI company to win, as that company would then have enormous leverage over Nvidia, and could perhaps even erode the Cuda moat with their own chip spending. They want the AI market to be hypercompetitive, with AI companies focusing on competing amongst themselves instead of with Nvidia on one side, and many self-hosters / small inference providers buying Nvidia GPUs for large open models on the other. It's in Nvidia's business interest to be a good steward of Huggingface, while being a good steward of Github is at best incidental to the interests of Microsoft.
- fjcururuvy7 1mo agoHN failing to understand embrace extend extinguish yet again I see.
- hanselot 1mo agoEEE is impossible already. They can't close pandoras box now. Why is it alarming for a shovel salesman to also sell plants?
- AnthonyMouse 1mo agoContext: Liz Lemon has been buying two products together because one of them creates a need for the other. Jack Donaghy: The only thing I will be discussing with the House Subcommittee on Baseball, Quiz Shows, Terrorism, and Media is vertical integration. Liz Lemon: What's vertical integration? Jack Donaghy: Imagine that your favorite corn chip manufacturer also owned the number one diarrhea medication. Liz Lemon: That'd be great, 'cause then they could put a little sample of the medicine in each bag. Jack Donaghy: Keep thinking. Liz Lemon: [beat] Except then they might be tempted to make the corn chips give you... Jack Donaghy: Vertical integration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ7oht6TD9c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ7oht6TD9c
- philipallstar 1mo ago
- jstummbillig 1mo agoWhat happened to GitHub?
- sciurus 1mo agohttps://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/ https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/
- jstummbillig 1mo agoThat looks roughly like a service being hammered by AI agents starting 2025, with no discernible connection to a 2012 acquisition by anyone.
- Bognar 1mo agoIt was 2018. As someone who worked at GitHub during the Microsoft era, I think Microsoft was a pretty reasonable steward of GitHub right up until Copilot started getting popular. After that, leadership stopped investing in the core product and infrastructure and either incentivized people moving into the Copilot org or just fully reorged teams into it regardless. The load increase from AI is definitely significant, but I think with proper investment they would not be having this many issues.
- huurtehoog 1mo agoI'd trust a hardware player to be way more focused on reliability...
- seanclayton 1mo agoWhat hardware player other than Apple would you give that same trust to?