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"up to 9 hours for light web browsing or everyday tasks" that is 1/3 the battery life of a macbook in the same use case. seems completely incomparable

prmoustache 1mo ago
Who works 27h straight far away from a power or usb outlet?
- pmontra 1mo ago
  Probably nobody and I remember when a phone battery lasted one week: nevertheless sometimes we forgot to charge and we run out of battery. So a long lasting battery is good, too long lasting is a waste, which maybe it's your point. However nowadays it could mean running some agents all day long (remote models) and plug in to power only at the end of the day.
- cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
  It’s more about not having to drag a cable + brick around everywhere and not needing to care about the location of the nearest power outlet, potentially for multiple days depending on usage patterns. You can instead leave the charging bits at home or the hotel and charge overnight. This also means that battery cycles accumulate more slowly and the battery’s lifetime is stretched further. Also, generally more efficient chips don’t get hot as easily which makes the laptop more comfortable to use and prevents fans from becoming audible unless you’re really pushing the system.
darkwater 1mo ago
I have a M1 Pro from work and it surely won't last that while working. Throw some video calls at it and working outside (so, screen at the brightest level) and at the end of the work day I have to plug it in
- maccard 1mo ago
  Your M1 Pro is 5 years old presumably?
  - darkwater 1mo ago
    Indeed it is, but batteries don't degrade 60% over 5 years.
- hobo123 1mo ago
  With load on it and a bright room (= display reasonably bright as well) my M3 also doesn't always last 8h. But it gets very close. Intel machines are more like 3h in that case.
izacus 1mo ago
No MacBook runs for 27 hours even if it says so in spec sheet. My 16" doesn't come close to apple claims. (Did we really forget how inflated Apple battery claims really are?)
- cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
  It can get pretty close if avoiding Chrome and Chromium wrappers, especially in airplane mode.

prmoustache 1mo ago

Who works 27h straight far away from a power or usb outlet?

pmontra 1mo ago
Probably nobody and I remember when a phone battery lasted one week: nevertheless sometimes we forgot to charge and we run out of battery. So a long lasting battery is good, too long lasting is a waste, which maybe it's your point. However nowadays it could mean running some agents all day long (remote models) and plug in to power only at the end of the day.
cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
It’s more about not having to drag a cable + brick around everywhere and not needing to care about the location of the nearest power outlet, potentially for multiple days depending on usage patterns. You can instead leave the charging bits at home or the hotel and charge overnight. This also means that battery cycles accumulate more slowly and the battery’s lifetime is stretched further. Also, generally more efficient chips don’t get hot as easily which makes the laptop more comfortable to use and prevents fans from becoming audible unless you’re really pushing the system.

darkwater 1mo ago

I have a M1 Pro from work and it surely won't last that while working. Throw some video calls at it and working outside (so, screen at the brightest level) and at the end of the work day I have to plug it in

maccard 1mo ago
Your M1 Pro is 5 years old presumably?
- darkwater 1mo ago
  Indeed it is, but batteries don't degrade 60% over 5 years.
hobo123 1mo ago
With load on it and a bright room (= display reasonably bright as well) my M3 also doesn't always last 8h. But it gets very close. Intel machines are more like 3h in that case.

izacus 1mo ago

No MacBook runs for 27 hours even if it says so in spec sheet. My 16" doesn't come close to apple claims. (Did we really forget how inflated Apple battery claims really are?)

cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
It can get pretty close if avoiding Chrome and Chromium wrappers, especially in airplane mode.