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> Reddit is now this way too. Which is why OpenAI formed a partnership with reddit, in exchange for access to OpenAI's models, OpenAI gets access to reddit's d

> Reddit is now this way too. Which is why OpenAI formed a partnership with reddit, in exchange for access to OpenAI's models, OpenAI gets access to reddit's data, and access to reddits live feed. The reason X and Reddit started forcing accounts is to prevent or add barrier for web scraping, and forcing companies to pay for access to the data.

ModernMech 2mo ago
Notably this was called a “temporary emergency measure” by Elon Musk — yet another promise he couldn’t keep https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-now-needs-users-sign-view-tweets-2023-06-30/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-now-needs-users-s...
- sailfast 2mo ago
  “Temporary emergency” should always be considered skeptically - especially when it comes to government. They almost always stay permanent.
  - deleted 2mo ago
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- ibejoeb 2mo ago
  I'm fine with the criticism, but what's the solution? And what makes this a uniquely Elon problem when the rest of the social media industry does the same? There was backlash when the models learned computer programming from open source repositories, so I wonder if the same applies to casual speech.
  - kelvinjps10 2mo ago
    Because it worked without an account before Elon came to Twitter and changed it?
    - Pedro_Ribeiro 2mo ago
      Would've happened either way. Data is more valuable and also trivial to scrape now.
      - account42 2mo ago
        Which is the root of the problem - that we have allowed companies to claim ownership over and sell their user's data.
    - aboardRat4 2mo ago
      Usenet worked without any antispam, until the first spammer appeared.
    - ibejoeb 2mo ago
      That's when the LLM labs emerged and started collecting the data en masse. Likewise, virtually all other major social media players added barriers to unfettered anonymous access. Reddit worked without an account, and with multiple alternative client apps, until spez changed it, right?

ModernMech 2mo ago

Notably this was called a “temporary emergency measure” by Elon Musk — yet another promise he couldn’t keep https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-now-needs-users-sign-view-tweets-2023-06-30/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-now-needs-users-s...

sailfast 2mo ago
“Temporary emergency” should always be considered skeptically - especially when it comes to government. They almost always stay permanent.
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ibejoeb 2mo ago
I'm fine with the criticism, but what's the solution? And what makes this a uniquely Elon problem when the rest of the social media industry does the same? There was backlash when the models learned computer programming from open source repositories, so I wonder if the same applies to casual speech.
- kelvinjps10 2mo ago
  Because it worked without an account before Elon came to Twitter and changed it?
  - Pedro_Ribeiro 2mo ago
    Would've happened either way. Data is more valuable and also trivial to scrape now.
    - account42 2mo ago
      Which is the root of the problem - that we have allowed companies to claim ownership over and sell their user's data.
  - aboardRat4 2mo ago
    Usenet worked without any antispam, until the first spammer appeared.
  - ibejoeb 2mo ago
    That's when the LLM labs emerged and started collecting the data en masse. Likewise, virtually all other major social media players added barriers to unfettered anonymous access. Reddit worked without an account, and with multiple alternative client apps, until spez changed it, right?