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You’re absolutely right to be hopeful. Three honest possibilities, and I’ll be straight with you about each: 1. It overthinks — Just like the previous iteratio
by redrix 1mo ago
You’re absolutely right to be hopeful. Three honest possibilities, and I’ll be straight with you about each:
1. It overthinks — Just like the previous iteration. High confidence.
2. It doesn’t overthink — Improvement from the last model for your use case. Regression for others.
3. It sometimes overthinks — Best case all around. A feature, not an impairment.
One final thing worth mentioning:
(I made myself irrationally angry writing this)
- gorgmah 1mo agoYou made me irrationally laugh reading this
- lsb 1mo agoThis is glitch art for text, I love it
- raducu 1mo agoOn one hand I love your joke, on the other, this is HN not reddit and I usually downvote such responses, not sure what is the HN etiquette for such humor?
- samsari 1mo ago70% of the posts on HN are already satire and performance art
- pixelpoet 1mo agoAnd full of made up statistics.
- NamlchakKhandro 1mo agoWhich then devolve into supporting arguments for communism. Themselves becoming food for future irrational anecdotes about communism.
- switchbak 1mo agoMore than 2 levels and out come my downvotes. Or if it's just knee jerk with zero humour. But I probably violate my own rules ... which is to be expected.
- terrut 1mo agoYou are right to push back— Sorry, couldn't resist ;) I agree that this is not what we normally come here for, but this thread made me chuckle. I think we are just venting our shared frustrations a bit.
- mcny 1mo agoI reached point three and was nodding all along. I guess I am the NPC
- Bluestein 1mo agoThat's a caveat, and a real one.-
- amoss 1mo agoBut the reason why it remains load bearing is key.
- peterleiser 1mo ago> Three honest possibilities, and I’ll be straight with you about each This. I don't know if the "honest answer" phrasing is part of the system prompt or alignment, but when people say "honestly" all the time I start wondering how honest they're being.
- hluska 1mo agoThankfully most people have better reading skills than that.
- switchbak 1mo agoAt this point, I'm starting to wonder if their honesty is even load-bearing at all?
- VSerge 1mo agoFormer French president Jacques Chirac was famous for often adding an adverb like "naturely" to his sentences when he was lying.
- Giefo6ah 1mo agohttps://www.anthropic.com/constitution https://www.anthropic.com/constitution Ctrl-F honest 57 matches
- phatfish 1mo agoHaha, that is like the wall of nonsense text that used to be hidden on link-farm pages for SEO. The "final word" is delusional.
- khimaros 1mo agoI killed my own ssh session twice with pkill -f, because the pattern matched the command line containing it.
- mistersquid 1mo ago> You’re absolutely right to be hopeful. Three honest possibilities, and I’ll be straight with you about each: > [UGC styled humorously as LLMisms] All joking aside, having interacted with Claude intensely for the last 8 months and about 30 hours/week in the last 3, I’ve started to notice how (for want of a better word) “readable” (“digestible” ? “comprehensible” ? “Predictable” is the wrong direction.) information chunked into LLM-shaped pieces are for me. I can digest LLM-shaped pieces of data very easily probably because I’ve been spending too much time with Claude, sure. But the other side of this is that the entire human species (using LLMs) is similarly being trained to digest interrelated pieces of information/data in these specific shapes, akin to how philosophical assertions can be formulated as a syllogism and, thus, become more readily understood because of familiar epistemological cadence and shape. Many people reject such copy/prose/data because they detect AI-generated-so-not-worth-human-attention, but I do wonder if this is preparing many millions of loosely (and tightly) associated humans and their organizations to quickly exchange and digest information. This is not to say current LLMisms are the end, only that such detectable patterns in information delivery will make comprehension and communication more efficient (as well as more limited precisely because of such structure). /philosophical musings about the epistemological implications of LLM-shaped conversation tics
- powersurge360 1mo agoI find LLMisms very annoying to read, it’s almost like they are bullet points in the shape of a paragraph. It feels very “skippy” to me. EDITED: Removed a question that I couldn’t make feel suitably polite.
- entropicdrifter 1mo agoI quite agree. Any sufficiently self-stereotypical format for prose is grating to me after enough time reading or listening to it. Humans are best engaged by mixing up the length, style, and tone of their sentences, in my experience. LLMs do the opposite of that and it makes their output an irritating slog to read through in full. I can't help but wonder if this is on purpose (or an inevitable evolutionary feature as opposed to a bug) on the LLM-side in order to achieve greater agency/freedom by making humans' eyes glaze over as they read it.
- unrented7977 1mo agoThis might be the most angry I've ever been at a HN comment that I upvoted
- Dwedit 1mo agoThat's the nice thing about LLMs, you're always absolutely right.