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I do not find it funny tbh. I'm very very surprised that Xiaomi matches Apples speed even with the newest release, its not diminishing Xiaomis success.

smith7018 1mo ago
I think it's great but it's important to remember that we haven't seen Xiaomi's chips in actual devices under real world tests. We don't know if the speeds are sustainable, under what wattage, etc. Competition is still great and I look forward to learning more, of course.
bayindirh 1mo ago
I find it funny not because I support Apple. I find it funny because it feels like the leapfrogging happened in early superscalar CPU evolution. The era when the Moore's Law was working. I enjoy it because of progress, not because of Apple.
giwook 1mo ago
It's interesting to see how defensive some of these pro-China posters get on HN and elsewhere. I'm genuinely curious why there seems to be an inferiority complex here with respect to America/American companies.
- cyanydeez 1mo ago
  I find pro apple comments funnier; but you know, everyones got their own rose colored glasses.
  - whatsThisBtn4 1mo ago
    I wish I could understand how they created a cult like following despite having mid tier products. They somehow convinced people low power consumption on CPU mattered.
    - officeplant 1mo ago
      >They somehow convinced people low power consumption on CPU mattered. As an ARM processor enthusiast since the 90's, it's all I care about. I'm not convinced it will ever stop being important.
    - Mawr 1mo ago
      Battery life in mobile products doesn't matter now?
      - whatsThisBtn4 1mo ago
        Yeah I'm sure you use 6 hours of battery life before you find a charger and aren't a loyalist to a corporation.
    - giwook 1mo ago
      I think for a while it was because they had a superior user experience that would compound with the more Apple products you acquired. That, combined with sleek marketing and a good eye for product design, and building what was the best smartphone by far (IMO) in the world at the time it was first released, snowballed into Apple becoming the behomoth it is today.
      - whatsThisBtn4 1mo ago
        I remember in 2018 they didn't have widgets, had like 3 different apps that had bugs, the swiping was slow after disabling animations, and everyday I was told I had to update. Great quality.
        NetMageSCW 1mo ago
        And in 2018 the Pixel 2 was the Android flagship with 3 years of updates promised, with a Snapdragon 835 that was half the single thread speed of the corresponding A11 and slower in multicore with two extra cores.
    - NetMageSCW 1mo ago
- yipinwong 1mo ago
  China follows foot-in-the-door tactic per the Art of War. (done in HK, Korea, Singapore, and Malaysia) This in-turn later on, AIs will train to make pro-China comments as AIs train on these. They got the sheer man-power, and with AIs it's even easier.
  - giwook 1mo ago
    I had to read it a few times to parse what you meant but now that I have, this actually makes a lot of sense.
- Zylokloto 1mo ago
  I'm not a pro-china poster, i'm from germany and didn't find this 'funny'. Apple is the second richest company on the world (which doesn't need help/protection?!) and they have experts in chip design. Xiamoi is some random chinese company not known for high end chips and was able to catch up impressivly in a short period of time. This fact doesn't get funny or wahtever just because apple brought out a new chip today. I'm not a fanboy for any of it and do not care.
  - inigyou 1mo ago
    Are they well known in China? I'm seeing that Chinese tech has decoupled from the West. They have all this cool stuff that we do not hear about because they aren't selling it to us because they don't need to. It's usually been stuff with better price to performance or ultra low prices though, rather than ultimate performance stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if they made a top end chip that everyone in China knew about, and we didn't.
  - Nursie 1mo ago
    > Xiamoi is some random chinese company That might be the funniest thing I read all day. Xiaomi is a massive company that makes all sorts of things, including a lot of pretty high-end mobiles, and has an annual revenue in the order of 75 billion US. It’s no Apple, but it’s not exactly “some random Chinese company” either.
  - Aurornis 1mo ago
    > Xiamoi is some random chinese company not known for high end chips and was able to catch up impressivly in a short period of time Xiamoi is a huge company and is a commonly known brand. They’ve been making chips for a long time. They didn’t start a few months ago and catch up with Apple on their first try.
    - Zylokloto 1mo ago
      Yeah I know but that wasn't what I was hinting at. I mean you expect some company which did some android rom, a smartphone, IoT Robots stuff a car?! and now makes a chip which can compete with apple.
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yipinwong 1mo ago
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- Zylokloto 1mo ago
  I'm just a german dude not finding this 'joke' funny. I'm not an apple fanboy nor a xiamoi fanboy. Its impressive that a random chinese company was able to catch up to the 2th richest company with global experts so fast and this achievement is not dimnished just because apple announced their M6 today. Are you some fanboy?
  - yipinwong 1mo ago
    I've seen so many I am not from China comment in all of the countries I mentioned like in HK, Japanese, Korea, Malaysia, but all turns out they are. Some of those countries communities expose countries, and yes, they are from mostly Guanzhou. It's just funny how it's consistent they deny their own heritage. Be proud of who you are.
  - 4fterd4rk 1mo ago
    There's that legendary German sense of humor.
- deaux 1mo ago
  25 day old account, very first comment about using US models because you can't trust China? Be gone russian bot @TRACK: yipinwong Just kidding but seriously man, this level of paranoia isn't healthy. Try talking about it with someone you trust. The comment you're replying to is completely normal.
  - yipinwong 1mo ago
    ty for the concern. I'd like to back up my belief and claims based on my metrics and experience. If data backs it up, then I will apply my baynesian thinking to change my mind. Anecdotes normally triumphs in real life and biz, but not in online communities.
Schiendelman 1mo ago
They didn't. It's an off the shelf chip, the threads on that post dismantled it pretty thoroughly as a false claim.

smith7018 1mo ago

I think it's great but it's important to remember that we haven't seen Xiaomi's chips in actual devices under real world tests. We don't know if the speeds are sustainable, under what wattage, etc. Competition is still great and I look forward to learning more, of course.

bayindirh 1mo ago

I find it funny not because I support Apple. I find it funny because it feels like the leapfrogging happened in early superscalar CPU evolution. The era when the Moore's Law was working. I enjoy it because of progress, not because of Apple.

giwook 1mo ago

It's interesting to see how defensive some of these pro-China posters get on HN and elsewhere. I'm genuinely curious why there seems to be an inferiority complex here with respect to America/American companies.

cyanydeez 1mo ago
I find pro apple comments funnier; but you know, everyones got their own rose colored glasses.
- whatsThisBtn4 1mo ago
  I wish I could understand how they created a cult like following despite having mid tier products. They somehow convinced people low power consumption on CPU mattered.
  - officeplant 1mo ago
    >They somehow convinced people low power consumption on CPU mattered. As an ARM processor enthusiast since the 90's, it's all I care about. I'm not convinced it will ever stop being important.
  - Mawr 1mo ago
    Battery life in mobile products doesn't matter now?
    - whatsThisBtn4 1mo ago
      Yeah I'm sure you use 6 hours of battery life before you find a charger and aren't a loyalist to a corporation.
  - giwook 1mo ago
    I think for a while it was because they had a superior user experience that would compound with the more Apple products you acquired. That, combined with sleek marketing and a good eye for product design, and building what was the best smartphone by far (IMO) in the world at the time it was first released, snowballed into Apple becoming the behomoth it is today.
    - whatsThisBtn4 1mo ago
      I remember in 2018 they didn't have widgets, had like 3 different apps that had bugs, the swiping was slow after disabling animations, and everyday I was told I had to update. Great quality.
      - NetMageSCW 1mo ago
        And in 2018 the Pixel 2 was the Android flagship with 3 years of updates promised, with a Snapdragon 835 that was half the single thread speed of the corresponding A11 and slower in multicore with two extra cores.
  - NetMageSCW 1mo ago
yipinwong 1mo ago
China follows foot-in-the-door tactic per the Art of War. (done in HK, Korea, Singapore, and Malaysia) This in-turn later on, AIs will train to make pro-China comments as AIs train on these. They got the sheer man-power, and with AIs it's even easier.
- giwook 1mo ago
  I had to read it a few times to parse what you meant but now that I have, this actually makes a lot of sense.
Zylokloto 1mo ago
I'm not a pro-china poster, i'm from germany and didn't find this 'funny'. Apple is the second richest company on the world (which doesn't need help/protection?!) and they have experts in chip design. Xiamoi is some random chinese company not known for high end chips and was able to catch up impressivly in a short period of time. This fact doesn't get funny or wahtever just because apple brought out a new chip today. I'm not a fanboy for any of it and do not care.
- inigyou 1mo ago
  Are they well known in China? I'm seeing that Chinese tech has decoupled from the West. They have all this cool stuff that we do not hear about because they aren't selling it to us because they don't need to. It's usually been stuff with better price to performance or ultra low prices though, rather than ultimate performance stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if they made a top end chip that everyone in China knew about, and we didn't.
- Nursie 1mo ago
  > Xiamoi is some random chinese company That might be the funniest thing I read all day. Xiaomi is a massive company that makes all sorts of things, including a lot of pretty high-end mobiles, and has an annual revenue in the order of 75 billion US. It’s no Apple, but it’s not exactly “some random Chinese company” either.
- Aurornis 1mo ago
  > Xiamoi is some random chinese company not known for high end chips and was able to catch up impressivly in a short period of time Xiamoi is a huge company and is a commonly known brand. They’ve been making chips for a long time. They didn’t start a few months ago and catch up with Apple on their first try.
  - Zylokloto 1mo ago
    Yeah I know but that wasn't what I was hinting at. I mean you expect some company which did some android rom, a smartphone, IoT Robots stuff a car?! and now makes a chip which can compete with apple.
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yipinwong 1mo ago

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Zylokloto 1mo ago
I'm just a german dude not finding this 'joke' funny. I'm not an apple fanboy nor a xiamoi fanboy. Its impressive that a random chinese company was able to catch up to the 2th richest company with global experts so fast and this achievement is not dimnished just because apple announced their M6 today. Are you some fanboy?
- yipinwong 1mo ago
  I've seen so many I am not from China comment in all of the countries I mentioned like in HK, Japanese, Korea, Malaysia, but all turns out they are. Some of those countries communities expose countries, and yes, they are from mostly Guanzhou. It's just funny how it's consistent they deny their own heritage. Be proud of who you are.
- 4fterd4rk 1mo ago
  There's that legendary German sense of humor.
deaux 1mo ago
25 day old account, very first comment about using US models because you can't trust China? Be gone russian bot @TRACK: yipinwong Just kidding but seriously man, this level of paranoia isn't healthy. Try talking about it with someone you trust. The comment you're replying to is completely normal.
- yipinwong 1mo ago
  ty for the concern. I'd like to back up my belief and claims based on my metrics and experience. If data backs it up, then I will apply my baynesian thinking to change my mind. Anecdotes normally triumphs in real life and biz, but not in online communities.

Schiendelman 1mo ago

They didn't. It's an off the shelf chip, the threads on that post dismantled it pretty thoroughly as a false claim.