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when was the turing test beaten?
by jgalt212 2mo ago
when was the turing test beaten?
- goda90 2mo agoI think it was determined that the Turing test is too easy because humans are too easily fooled.
- bbor 2mo agoYes, which is exactly and entirely the point of the whole paper. Somehow missed still -- despite how important AI has become, shockingly few people actually read the short, layperson-accessible paper that started the whole field. I kinda have to link it now, so uhh here's a random PDF: https://www.hec.edu/sites/default/files/documents/Computing%20Machinery%20and%20Intelligence%20by%20Alan%20Turing.pdf https://www.hec.edu/sites/default/files/documents/Computing%...
- acchow 2mo agoHumans are equally fooled into believing each other are conscious.
- intrasight 2mo ago2050 I'm guessing
- Someone1234 2mo agoThe EU just had to pass a law to force companies to disclose if a customer service agent is AI or Human. It is beaten. https://commission.europa.eu/news-and-media/news/safer-and-more-transparent-ai-2026-08-02_en https://commission.europa.eu/news-and-media/news/safer-and-m...
- maximilianthe1 2mo agoCustomer service is very different. Crappiest audio quality possible & scripted answers all the way down. Almost like humans are forced to behave like machines.
- stavros 2mo agoNowadays, I prefer AI CS agents to humans. I just had a chat with an AI yesterday, it understood me perfectly even when I made mistakes, I was impressed. In contrast, humans tend to paste me the same barely-relevant macro over and over, no matter how much time I spend explaining my issue.
- rogerrogerr 2mo agoYeah, at least LLMs read everything you write (for now). Human first level support agents are incredibly frustrating if you have to explain anything with more than one logical step.
- AnotherGoodName 2mo agoAlso the endless online debates of ‘is this post made by ai? What about those images, that video or that music?’.
- thatjoeoverthr 2mo agoNobody thinks customer service agents are real, realistic or useful. EU just passes laws.
- jackjeff 2mo agoIf cars were just invented the EU would pass a mandate to ensure cars can’t have accidents.
- bnchrch 2mo agoAccording to Psychology today, April this year by GPT 4.5 https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/the-digital-self/202504/ai-beat-the-turing-test-by-being-a-better-human https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/the-digital-self/202...
- DougBTX 2mo agoApril last year
- 3836293648 2mo ago~1960 ELIZA beat the Turing test and then everyone forgot about it. Humans are just really terrible at recognising robots.
- simonh 2mo ago1966 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect It turns out the limiting factor isn't how sophisticated algorithms are, it's how gullible humans are.
- beardedetim 2mo agoI think of this and the book the author wrote Computer Power and Human Reason every time I try to talk to product about the short comings of LLMs
- ashetr 2mo agoWhat does that have to do with the Turing Test? The TT has clear rules: There are judges that have a dialogue with anonymized AI/humans. The humans cannot cheat and impersonate a machine, they have to act normally. The AI obviously should try to sound human. No AI would pass this test with experienced judges.
- frollogaston 2mo agoThe test doesn't say that the judge has to be experienced. But I also don't care if some random gullible person can't tell the difference. Nothing passes the Turing Test for me yet. Edit: Also doesn't say anything about who the human test subject is
- simonh 2mo agoOf course, and I'm sure OP wouldn't disagree with you, it was clearly a joke for emphasis. Some people round here need to clean and calibrate their humour detectors more often.
- frollogaston 2mo agoI wasn't responding to OP. I get the emphasis, the M6 Mac is very powerful.
- cortesoft 2mo ago
- shric 2mo agoIt depends who takes the test. I am not yet, to my knowledge, fooled by AI. I've tried [1] and I almost 100% detect which is the AI. I really want to convince myself I have failed, does anyone know of a better site/resource for this? I know it might be moving goalposts but I would consider AI to have passed in a well and truly undisputed manner when [2] is resolved. But in a more practical sense, if AI can impersonate humans so well today then why are state of the art frontier models so obviously AI when they create PRs, commit messages, documentation, etc. Are the companies deliberately making them unnatural? [1] https://turingtest.live/ https://turingtest.live/ [2] https://www.metaculus.com/questions/11861/date-when-ai-passes-difficult-turing-test/ https://www.metaculus.com/questions/11861/date-when-ai-passe...
- dmd 2mo ago“advanced LLMs like GPT-4”
- shric 2mo ago> "advanced LLMs like GPT-4" Not sure where you're quoting from but if it's the metaculus question comments, many of them are from 2023. The consensus is it will resolve in 2029. I believe it will not resolve before 2035.
- jayGlow 2mo agowe might need to bring back the Voight-Kampff test. anthropic at the very least is introducing a water making system to Claude which might make them more identifiable to humans as well as much easier to detect for machines.
- olmo23 2mo ago2001 according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
- mdp2021 2mo agoThe Turing test is more complex than what gets suggested. And the "popularized" version is faulty also since it uses an ideal, abstract human judge (like the "spheroidal economic agent"). But if you want to add declinations to the said popularized image of the Turing test, you may add Maxim Lott's IQ tests at trackingai.org . Between the end of 2024 and the beginning of 2025 LLMs reached an equivalent IQ of 100, for example.
- mdp2021 2mo agoOr can we reframe it: when did humans start losing the (so-called) "Turing test". I think there are elements showing lowering of performance and expectation.
- Rover222 2mo agoare you living under a rock?