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NOSTR is a protocol so there's no entity for you to be bitter with... You can be annoyed at the people who were on there, but that's a different subject. There

by exabyte 1mo ago

NOSTR is a protocol so there's no entity for you to be bitter with... You can be annoyed at the people who were on there, but that's a different subject. There's probably a better analogy than this, but what you're describing would be like playing soccer and being annoyed that your teammates are furries. Go find another team to play with.

phrotoma 1mo ago
This in HN, everybody in here has been bitter with a protocol at some point in their career.
lxgr 1mo ago
But now imagine that the regulating body of your favorite hobby sport is deeply corrupt and fundamentally profit driven, so while playing with your friends is still fun, just thinking about ever competing at the regional level makes you shiver. [1] Sure, you can always fork a protocol/not federate with who you dislike etc., but you might find yourself fighting an uphill battle against other people’s experiences and preconceptions. Protocols are ultimately always designed by people too. [1] Note that I have no experience with either Nostr or professional football, so take this as a purely hypothetical analogy with no relation to real organizations. I have to assume both are lovely passion projects by people that just share a common passion.
- exabyte 1mo ago
  Sure, Fifa is quite corrupt. I still like to play soccer with my friends and organized sports in my town. I don't refuse to play the game simply because of Fifa.
- newguy1000 1mo ago
  This makes no sense. It's a protocol.
  - Dylan16807 1mo ago
    It didn't float up from the mariana trench. There's a group of people that are effectively in charge of the protocol.
LoganDark 1mo ago
But furries are more likely to be skilled at the game :)
- exabyte 1mo ago
  i imagine the ball would be deflated by the end ^^
inigyou 1mo ago
Protocols are always developed by entities. Suppose the protocol changes - who decided that? About the only ownerless protocol is Bitcoin (not Ethereum, Monero or any other one) and it still has an entity with soft power over it.
- exabyte 1mo ago
  if the protocol were to change, clients and relays would have to also be willing to adopt the change, almost if not all of which are open-source and easily forked if a large population did not care to pull in those changes. Sure there's always someone guiding the direction, but I don't know how much better you can get than that.

by exabyte 1mo ago

phrotoma 1mo ago

This in HN, everybody in here has been bitter with a protocol at some point in their career.

lxgr 1mo ago

But now imagine that the regulating body of your favorite hobby sport is deeply corrupt and fundamentally profit driven, so while playing with your friends is still fun, just thinking about ever competing at the regional level makes you shiver. [1] Sure, you can always fork a protocol/not federate with who you dislike etc., but you might find yourself fighting an uphill battle against other people’s experiences and preconceptions. Protocols are ultimately always designed by people too. [1] Note that I have no experience with either Nostr or professional football, so take this as a purely hypothetical analogy with no relation to real organizations. I have to assume both are lovely passion projects by people that just share a common passion.

exabyte 1mo ago
Sure, Fifa is quite corrupt. I still like to play soccer with my friends and organized sports in my town. I don't refuse to play the game simply because of Fifa.
newguy1000 1mo ago
This makes no sense. It's a protocol.
- Dylan16807 1mo ago
  It didn't float up from the mariana trench. There's a group of people that are effectively in charge of the protocol.

LoganDark 1mo ago

But furries are more likely to be skilled at the game :)

exabyte 1mo ago
i imagine the ball would be deflated by the end ^^

inigyou 1mo ago

Protocols are always developed by entities. Suppose the protocol changes - who decided that? About the only ownerless protocol is Bitcoin (not Ethereum, Monero or any other one) and it still has an entity with soft power over it.

exabyte 1mo ago
if the protocol were to change, clients and relays would have to also be willing to adopt the change, almost if not all of which are open-source and easily forked if a large population did not care to pull in those changes. Sure there's always someone guiding the direction, but I don't know how much better you can get than that.