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Bookshelf – Self-hosted eBook library that runs on object storage
- philips 1mo agoIf it is helpful to other people here is how I manage my ebook library with flatfiles and heterogeneous devices (Android, macOS, iOS, Kindle, etc) I have my own eBook library hosted with copyparty. It is a single binary. Runs on plain files. And speaks OPDS for integration with KOreader (Kindle) or Readest (iOS/macOS). https://github.com/9001/copyparty#opds-feeds https://github.com/9001/copyparty#opds-feeds It also speaks webdav so I can quickly sync everything via rclone to an SD card on devices like an Android tablet. I really like the convenience of flat files and multiple protocols.
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- ukz 1mo agoCopyparty is super cool, it can also be configured to use S3 backend. How do you manage your reading progress?
- robbiet480 1mo agoFor someone looking for a bit more than this, I recently got Bookorbit running and its quite powerful for being so young. https://bookorbit.app/ https://bookorbit.app/
- Vaslo 1mo agoHave you done calibre web or others? How does it compare?
- robbiet480 1mo agoI haven't spent much time with calibre-web in a long time but can confidently say BookOrbit blows it out of the water in terms of functionality. I love that I can have one app that handles books and audiobooks. The ecosystem of apps that work with it is growing quick too, Apogee for iOS being a standout for me. They recently added readaloud support (like Amazon Whispersync or Storyteller) natively in the app, which I've never seen done before. I have no relation to BookOrbit except I'm a very happy user.
- wredcoll 1mo agoI don't think calibreweb is that old, are you thinking of the calibre webserver?
- tcoff91 1mo agoThe storyteller mobile apps have supported readaloud for years. You can even set different playback speeds for readaloud vs listening, so when you background the app or lock your phone screen, it will switch from the readaloud speed to the listening speed. I typically use like 2.25x for readaloud and 1.5x for listening.
- robbiet480 1mo agoYes they have, but they didn't have the ability to align a book _on device_ like Apogee does. It just listens for a few seconds of audio to find where you are in the book and then aligns automatically going forward without having to pre-process.
- tcoff91 1mo agoCould you link to this Apogee app? i'm interested to see other apps in the space. On-device alignment is coming in Storyteller v3 apps.
- figmert 1mo agoI had a look at BookOrbit not long ago. Love the fact that it is able to manage all book types (manga, comics, ebooks). Perfect for me and have been struggling to find a good tool that does all of them without being stupid heavy in resources. Once I looked at the repo, source, PRs etc. I noticed how heavy AI use is. This feels purely vibecoded without much for understanding what is actually being delivered. So ended up not using.
- majora2007 1mo agoWhy not use Kavita then? It uses even less resources, it's mature (nearly 5 years old) and supports manga/comics/ebooks with a rich ecosystem of apps (esp with AI now, lots of users are creating mobile apps to connect).
- joshstrange 1mo agoI’m a huge fan of bookorbit, especially when paired with KOReader. It’s been, bar none, the best reading experience. I love having my highlights saved in software I control and can do whatever I want with. Currently I have multiple e-ink displays around my house that rotate a book quote from my highlights once a day. I love seeing the highlights and I love knowing the whole pipeline is open source.
- edsimpson 1mo agoI moved from Grimmory to BookOrbit due to the lower resource usage and absolutely love it. https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1tqia6s/i_benchmarked_6_selfhosted_book_server_apps_up_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1tqia6s/i_bench...
- bakies 1mo agoNow if only I had a good self hosted object store option
- toomuchtodo 1mo agoGarage? https://garagehq.deuxfleurs.fr/ https://garagehq.deuxfleurs.fr/
- mlnj 1mo agoRustFS
- BloodyIron 1mo agoCeph muahaha
- bakies 1mo agoUgh never again
- zrail 1mo agoVersityGW is very handy.
- bakies 1mo agoHaven't seen this
- sangwook 1mo agoSeeweedFS?
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- storywatch 1mo agoDoes Calibre support S3 these days as a storage backend?
- jilles 1mo agoNo but you can use s3fs (I have my Calibre library in iCloud Drive, but if I wasn't inside the Apple Ecosystem I'd use R2)
- BloodyIron 1mo agoI'm a fan of audiobookshelf. Don't let the name fool you, it does a lot! I use it for podcasts, audio books, & ebooks. It's great!
- rfarley04 1mo agoI absolutely love audiobookshelf for audiobooks. And I currently use it for my epubs, but it does not handle that particularly well. It doesn't save progress consistently and the UI for page flipping leaves a lot to be desired. Definitely going to check out how OP's library works
- tcoff91 1mo agoYou should check out Storyteller. It aligns ebooks with audiobooks to create EPUB3s with media overlays so you can do immersive reading. It also gives you a place to organize your audiobooks and epub library.
- e12e 1mo agohttps://storyteller-platform.dev https://storyteller-platform.dev ?
- tcoff91 1mo agoYes, that's it. Also here are the links to the mobile apps: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/storyteller-reader/id6474467720 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/storyteller-reader/id647446772... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.smoores.Storyteller&hl=en_US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.smoores.St...
- iamcoder18 1mo agoI've been using Readest (https://web.readest.com/ https://web.readest.com/) but I'll definitely be checking this out.
- davkan 1mo agoNot to hijack but for non object storage use cases I’ve been using Grimmory[1] and like it. Opds, kobo api, kindle email and web reader cover pretty much every use case. [1] https://github.com/grimmory-tools/grimmory https://github.com/grimmory-tools/grimmory
- darkteflon 1mo agoThis looks really good. Would you mind sharing why you decided not to go for Calibre?
- davkan 1mo agoCalibre is a local single user software. There are tools like calibre-web that bring a calibre backend into a multiuser web application but even then you are not supposed to host the calibre database on network storage IIRC. Grimmory is a web application first which is what I want. Access for my friends and, more importantly to me, an always online library with progress sync across all my reading devices. Calibre still has some good use cases though like drm stripping and has a better workflow for heavy metadata editing, but my book sources generally come drm free and have good metadata.
- darkteflon 1mo agoThank you, that’s very helpful. Just added it to my homelab.
- davkan 1mo agoNo problem!
- sjs382 1mo agoI use Grimmory, too. It feels a bit "heavy" for me[0] but I like it a lot. Not necessarily re: resource usage but rather: it does a lot more than what I have any interest in using. I just use it to expose books to my 2 ereaders (via OPDS) and to sync reading progress (via koreader-sync).
- phildenhoff 1mo agoHaving built a tool in this space, I enjoy seeing all the Calibre alternatives that have been coming out in the last few years! It's fascinating to see the specific wants that people have. Bookshelf, for example -- what possesses someone to make an ebook library that _only works on object storage_? Is this a weekend project, answering the question of "what would this look like"? Or was it something the author wanted for a long time?
- murerkinn 1mo agoAuthor here. It mostly came from a personal need rather than trying to answer "what would this look like on object storage?" I wanted something with as little infrastructure as possible, ideally no database or additional services to maintain, while still having my library available anywhere. Object storage fit that pretty well, especially with things like R2 where the free tier is already more than enough for a personal ebook library. That said, I don’t want Bookshelf to be tied to one particular setup forever. The plan is to keep the core idea of minimal infrastructure, while adding more storage/deployment options over time.
- phildenhoff 1mo agoI love it! Thanks for sharing. That makes perfect sense - available from anywhere with limited infrastructure. Looking forward to seeing what comes next for Bookshelf!
- PurpleRamen 1mo ago> Having built a tool in this space, I enjoy seeing all the Calibre alternatives that have been coming out in the last few years! If there would be just anything actually good. But for some reason they all have just very basic organisation-levels, and barely any support for handling custom data from calibre. For some reason, streaming ebooks seems to be also not existing. One can either download the whole book, or use some lousy in-browser-reader. So strange how the ebook-world has no decent software for selfhosting.
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- Insimwytim 1mo agoAbout five hundred dependencies (give or take). npm being npm.
- bordercontrol 1mo agoClient side end to end encryption is a must have for me when hosting anything nowadays. I am using Cryptomator for this specific reason. It takes away a lot of legal questions because I only need to curate the data to serve my own needs and do not have to curate it for state actors too. I really wish client side end to end encryption would become more widespread in the developer community. It is not hard to implement anymore and takes away all the headaches of having to comply with certain regulations. There are so many laws now that regulate copyright and hosting. An accidentally public S3 bucket full of ebooks could technically land you in jail in certain jurisdictions. Automatic shutdown notices. Providers themselves may also automatically scan stored material, and so on. There are so many reasons not to host your media library unencrypted on a third party server. I recommend using this kind of tool only if you can prove that you are legally allowed to possess every ebook you upload in every jurisdiction you travel to or live in, as well as in the jurisdiction where the server is located. RIP Aaron Swartz.
- murerkinn 1mo agoHi, author of Bookshelf here. I’ll definitely have a look into client-side end-to-end encryption. Thanks for bringing this up and for the detailed comment!
- phrotoma 1mo agoAppreciate this suggestion, cryptomator seems super cool and I had not heard of it until reading your comment.
- TaLiTr 1mo ago> I really wish client side end to end encryption would become more widespread in the developer community. I think asking every self-hosted app to implement their own encryption is a massive waste of resources. If you need the data encrypted, it should be handled by a dedicated app like Cryptomater or at the OS level.
- seymon 1mo agoWhy not Calibre-Web Automated? https://github.com/crocodilestick/calibre-web-automated https://github.com/crocodilestick/calibre-web-automated
- netfortius 1mo agoDoes anyone have a solution for reading progress sharing across macos library (now using calibre) and moonreader+ on android? What about highlights sharing?
- bohrbohra 1mo agoI also want to know this.
- murerkinn 1mo agoHi, author of Bookshelf here. It’s great to see the interest in the project, thanks everyone for the feedback and discussion. Bookshelf is still very early. The main goal has always been to keep the infrastructure as minimal as possible while still giving you a library you fully control. I never intended to turn it into a hosted service that everyone signs up for. I’d rather make it easy for people to host their own library with little to no ongoing cost. The demo currently runs on Cloudflare Workers and R2, and their free tiers are more than enough for this use case. Setup is also fairly straightforward. I’d like to keep it that way while adding more storage and deployment options so people can choose whatever works best for them. I’m also planning to improve the reader UI quite a bit, and I’m considering a bundled app for different platforms with things like offline reading. There’s still a lot to figure out, so I’d be very interested to hear more ideas, feature requests, and use cases people would like to see supported.
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- dizhn 1mo agoS3 compatible servers can keep object level metadata (x-amz-meta-[arbitrary-tag]) Wouldn't that be easier to manage?
- utopiah 1mo agoMight want to look into OPDS support, cf https://opds.io https://opds.io , to make content available to e-readers.
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- nairboon 1mo agoTangentially related: What are you all using for organizing & managing your physical book library? I've recently come across "Robinson" for doing the library inventory: https://github.com/ryanmccartney/robinson https://github.com/ryanmccartney/robinson What other good solutions are out there?
- ThinkingGuy 1mo agoI recommend LibraryThing to every book lover I meet. https://www.librarything.com/ https://www.librarything.com/
- someone4958923 1mo agoBookShelves on macOS/iOS handles the Calibre wireless sync and iCloud reading progress sync if you're in the Apple ecosystem. Has OPDS too.
- mosselman 1mo agoI setup https://grimmory.org/ https://grimmory.org/ a week ago. It has a feature where it can sync with kobo by just editing a single config file on the kobo itself and it works great!
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