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PPWR is an EU catastrophe. Firstly for the reasons outlined in the article: it essentially makes being a micro/small business in the EU impossible, if your mar
by Jskewel 1mo ago
PPWR is an EU catastrophe.
Firstly for the reasons outlined in the article: it essentially makes being a micro/small business in the EU impossible, if your market is other EU countries.
Secondly because it validates insidious populist views that the EU institution is useless and incompetent at a fundamental level.
The legislation is so ABSURDIST that the EU have actually asked companies to ignore the law that they just implemented. I can assure you it is difficult to ignore a law that comes with a €200000 fine for non-compliance.
- carlosjobim 1mo agoGosh I hate it when politicians are useless and incompetent, since it just validates the false populist propaganda that politicians can be useless and incompetent, which is clearly not true (even in cases when politicians actually are useless and incompetent, which they of course cannot be, since that is evil propaganda).
- gmueckl 1mo agoPoliticians can be quite evil, but in a functioning democracy they need to be at least competent at gathering support and navigating the occasional backstabbing plots to make it to the highest ranks of government. So I'm hesitant to call them totally incompetent.
- zigman1 1mo agoExactly. Competent at getting votes (and taking them away from competition) and incompetent at leading and being in power.
- ab5tract 1mo agoWhat is the alternative that you are proposing? When I read something like this all that comes across is a strident desire for totalitarianism.
- logicchains 1mo agoThe alternative in this case is fewer politicians. European countries don't need another layer of politicians on top of their local institutions.
- zigman1 1mo agoThe alternative to this is being also competent at leading.
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- rcxdude 1mo agoI hate it when politicians are useless and incompetent, since it just validates the false populist propaganda that the current politicians are only useless and incompetent (and of course the populists are totally competent).
- easytiger 1mo ago> Secondly because it validates insidious populist views that the EU institution is useless and incompetent at a fundamental level. - resentment that bad policy damages the institution’s reputation - annoyed it proves people i hate like correct
- alerighi 1mo agoReally the chances that someone will ask a small company to be compliant are just very low. Of course if you sell something in an envelope nobody will ask you anything, the deal and the reason for this law (that I consider correct) is to address packaging waste from big companies. Of course this law it's complex for nothing, to me, they could have just added the cost of the recycling of the packaging material into the cost of the packaging material itself, making it that only the companies producing the packaging would need to comply (so that if you buy a box to ship something the cost of recycling of the box is already embedded in the cost of the box, like they did with plastic bags at the supermarket).
- alberto-m 1mo ago> Really the chances that someone will ask a small company to be compliant are just very low. So EU has replaced rule of law with a system where every SME is a criminal and enforcement is left to chance or to the whim of the regulator (“oh, you criticized von der Leyen on your website? We cannot prosecute you for this, but let's send some inspectors to check if you are complying with the PPWR”). Italy works like that for tax compliance. I've read USSR also worked in a similar way. The effect on economy and innovation is always catastrophic.
- nonethewiser 1mo agoIf this view is validated: >EU institution is useless and incompetent at a fundamental level Then aren't the people who hold it simply correct? Why brand this valid view as "insidious populists?" >The legislation is so ABSURDIST that the EU have actually asked companies to ignore the law that they just implemented. This is probably the best way to emphasize it. It is completely absurd, useless, non-functional, etc.
- kilpikaarna 1mo ago> The legislation is so ABSURDIST that the EU have actually asked companies to ignore the law that they just implemented. I can assure you it is difficult to ignore a law that comes with a €200000 fine for non-compliance. That's the commission telling small businesses that please don't stop selling in the EU and suggesting member states should use common sense. Unfortunately, as with all EU directives the implementation and enforcement is up to the member states, and especially certain northern countries really love their bureaucrats leaving common sense at home in the morning and sticking to the exact letter of the law. The 200000 EUR fine is Germany specific I think, obviously a prime candidate here.
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- lofaszvanitt 1mo agoThe legislation doesnt apply to small joes..... stop disseminating total hogwash, especially if you don't have any idea what you are talking about.
- ddrdrck_ 1mo agoSorry to contradict you, but you are the one that does not know what you're talking about. This legislation, in theory, totally impacts any business, small or large, when sending a package from any EU country to another EU country.
- lofaszvanitt 1mo agoNope, read the legislation paper... its like a few hundred pages :D.