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As soon as I started using Fable I was like, okay, this is probably as good a model as I will need for software engineering going forward. I still feel that way

by adriand 1mo ago

As soon as I started using Fable I was like, okay, this is probably as good a model as I will need for software engineering going forward. I still feel that way. I don’t need a better model, I need a faster Fable. The thing I miss most about programming is flow, and the constant bouncing between terminal tabs sucks. I’d love to do one thing at a time, with Fable, quickly.

codazoda 1mo ago
You may or may not like agents mode. I also hate flipping tabs, but I enjoy using agent mode with well named sessions. I still stick with a single session until I must move to another, then I leave them around for a few days until I’m sure I won’t need to pick up where I left off again. Command: claude agents
- pastel8739 1mo ago
  I don’t think they were complaining about literally flipping tabs but rather just needing to context switch so often. This doesn’t sound like it helps with that.
jmalicki 1mo ago
There is GPT 5.6 Sol on Cerebras if you want to try that experience for an ungodly sum of money (not getting into GPT 5.6 Sol vs Fable, but only one is available on Cerebras) for an 11x speedup.
- hakimg 1mo ago
  OpenAI also have 5.6 fast mode for a 2.5x speedup for 2x cost and is available on standard plans.
kbrannigan 1mo ago
remember 4 year ago we use to : have stack overflow open, documentation, obscure forums plus other tabs. An ide open with 20 tabs open each file a component, a class or an interface We also use to hold entire codebases in our brain.
- echelon 1mo ago
  And now I'm getting 10-20x as much done. I'd say the trade off is worth it. I'm struggling to scale myself even further. This tech is unreal and I have so many things I can do. For the first time, tech feels like the 90's-00's again. Everything is greenfield and exciting and big tech is struggling to figure out what to do about it. People are just hacking all kinds of stuff, and it's awesome. Feels like techno utopia.
  - monegator 1mo ago
    BINGO!
  - noufalibrahim 1mo ago
    I have mixed feelings. The barrier and time between idea and usable implementation is almost zero now. I don't have to imagine. I can just write something and see it work before making larger decisions. I really like this. Many of my ideas were abandoned because I needed to study some obscure library. Now, I can learn the parts that I find interesting and just have the AI chew through the grunt parts easily. That's the good. I started coding with a line editor on a small Casio handheld "computer" and used to keep programs in my head. I more or less knew what happened on each line without seeing the line. With larger programs, I had a mental model of what was going on where and a big part of the input to that was the effort of writing everything by hand. That's gone. It's not really important as far as the output of usable programs is concerned but there's a certain feeling of satisfaction that came with digesting a larger codebase and having it surrender it's secrets to you that's missing.
  - lelanthran 1mo ago
    > For the first time, tech feels like the 90's-00's again. It feels like the opposite of 90s - 00s: they were filled with periods where a person could self-study technology and get a job using those skills that few others had. Where we are going (according to the AI-proponents) is children being able to replace you. In brief; the 90s - 00s were a skill-valuation time, now we are looking at a skill devaluation time. Unless you meant to say "Just like how any kid who could write broken HTML t put up a webpage could pretend to be a skilled professional, that's where we are now"...
azalemeth 1mo ago
I _still_ haven't actually been able to _use_ Fable at all. Those safeguards just refuse biology in general.
- jghn 1mo ago
  It changed for the better a few weeks ago. Obviously it depends on what one is doing but I haven’t had an issue with my biology related material since that update
zelphirkalt 1mo ago
A faster Fable -- So you mean a model that's smaller, yet delivers the same quality of responses, ergo a better model?
Flow 1mo ago
I felt the same about GPT-5.2 on High. It did all I asked and it did it good and cheap. Too bad it’s no longer an option at all.
mark_l_watson 1mo ago
I have lower standards than you: I pay for deepseek-v4-flash-0731 tokens from a fast and reliable US vendor and I feel like working on one task at a time is fast and gets almost everything done I need.

by adriand 1mo ago

codazoda 1mo ago

You may or may not like agents mode. I also hate flipping tabs, but I enjoy using agent mode with well named sessions. I still stick with a single session until I must move to another, then I leave them around for a few days until I’m sure I won’t need to pick up where I left off again. Command: claude agents

pastel8739 1mo ago
I don’t think they were complaining about literally flipping tabs but rather just needing to context switch so often. This doesn’t sound like it helps with that.

jmalicki 1mo ago

There is GPT 5.6 Sol on Cerebras if you want to try that experience for an ungodly sum of money (not getting into GPT 5.6 Sol vs Fable, but only one is available on Cerebras) for an 11x speedup.

hakimg 1mo ago
OpenAI also have 5.6 fast mode for a 2.5x speedup for 2x cost and is available on standard plans.

kbrannigan 1mo ago

remember 4 year ago we use to : have stack overflow open, documentation, obscure forums plus other tabs. An ide open with 20 tabs open each file a component, a class or an interface We also use to hold entire codebases in our brain.

echelon 1mo ago
And now I'm getting 10-20x as much done. I'd say the trade off is worth it. I'm struggling to scale myself even further. This tech is unreal and I have so many things I can do. For the first time, tech feels like the 90's-00's again. Everything is greenfield and exciting and big tech is struggling to figure out what to do about it. People are just hacking all kinds of stuff, and it's awesome. Feels like techno utopia.
- monegator 1mo ago
  BINGO!
- noufalibrahim 1mo ago
  I have mixed feelings. The barrier and time between idea and usable implementation is almost zero now. I don't have to imagine. I can just write something and see it work before making larger decisions. I really like this. Many of my ideas were abandoned because I needed to study some obscure library. Now, I can learn the parts that I find interesting and just have the AI chew through the grunt parts easily. That's the good. I started coding with a line editor on a small Casio handheld "computer" and used to keep programs in my head. I more or less knew what happened on each line without seeing the line. With larger programs, I had a mental model of what was going on where and a big part of the input to that was the effort of writing everything by hand. That's gone. It's not really important as far as the output of usable programs is concerned but there's a certain feeling of satisfaction that came with digesting a larger codebase and having it surrender it's secrets to you that's missing.
- lelanthran 1mo ago
  > For the first time, tech feels like the 90's-00's again. It feels like the opposite of 90s - 00s: they were filled with periods where a person could self-study technology and get a job using those skills that few others had. Where we are going (according to the AI-proponents) is children being able to replace you. In brief; the 90s - 00s were a skill-valuation time, now we are looking at a skill devaluation time. Unless you meant to say "Just like how any kid who could write broken HTML t put up a webpage could pretend to be a skilled professional, that's where we are now"...

azalemeth 1mo ago

I _still_ haven't actually been able to _use_ Fable at all. Those safeguards just refuse biology in general.

jghn 1mo ago
It changed for the better a few weeks ago. Obviously it depends on what one is doing but I haven’t had an issue with my biology related material since that update

zelphirkalt 1mo ago

A faster Fable -- So you mean a model that's smaller, yet delivers the same quality of responses, ergo a better model?

Flow 1mo ago

I felt the same about GPT-5.2 on High. It did all I asked and it did it good and cheap. Too bad it’s no longer an option at all.

mark_l_watson 1mo ago

I have lower standards than you: I pay for deepseek-v4-flash-0731 tokens from a fast and reliable US vendor and I feel like working on one task at a time is fast and gets almost everything done I need.