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>but pedestrians faced higher radiant heat As would vehicles. Phoenix is the hottest city I've ever visited. The people were great, but I struggle to imagine
by evanjrowley 3mo ago
>but pedestrians faced higher radiant heat
As would vehicles.
Phoenix is the hottest city I've ever visited. The people were great, but I struggle to imagine why anyone would want to live there, let alone build semiconductor factories in an area already short on water supply.
- bediger4000 3mo agoCan confirm the heat. In the early 1990s I got bumped from a flight out of Phoenix because it was so hot the density altitude meant they couldn't load the plane as heavily as usual.
- ajb 3mo agoThe only person I know that lived near there had fibromyalgia, and had deliberately moved there from NY as they felt better in that climate. So YMMV I guess. They didn't actually live in phoenix, don't know how much difference that made.
- 3eb7988a1663 3mo agoThis is something that I fail to understand - why are there so many people there? Is there unobtainium in the hills that can only be mined from the region? Prior to modern air conditioning, why would people setup there when there are seemingly more hospitable areas?
- Retric 3mo agoPeople did prefer living in colder areas before AC. The arrival of AC meant there was suddenly a lot of very cheap land around cities that are extremely unpleasant without AC. This resulted in migration and a housing boom which drives up the economy attracting more people.
- 3eb7988a1663 3mo agoSure enough, Wikipedia says the population in 1940 was only 65k (which is still too many, but whatever). I would still assume that AC installation was very uneven and a luxury at the time.
- giantg2 3mo agoI would guess that swamp coolers were fairly common.
- frollogaston 3mo agoYeah, and those actually work in the desert unlike in coastal areas
- altairprime 3mo agoSuburbia requires land and desert land is very cheap when market-priced, so long as the true costs of drinking and lawn grass watering for the land are externalized. Unfortunately, that leaves the region exposed to the Colorado watershed collapse and associated “which metropolis gets the axe” politics: America’s desert metropolis Is on the short list to lose water (6 hours ago) https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/23/us/arizona-canals-colorado-river.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/23/us/arizona-canals-colorad... (I suspect the interstate highway system also contributed to migrations, but haven’t done the research.)
- anigbrowl 3mo agoLarge silver and turquoise mines, basically.
- estearum 3mo agoCheap land
- MarkusQ 3mo agoHaving walked on it, it really doesn't feel any hotter than the sidewalks. And in the morning and evening (only time it really makes sense to go walking there most of the year) it's significantly nicer than the asphalt.