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It really never grokked with me why there isn't just "open source Datadog" that can be installed and used. End to end, stateful, that we can just self host. Ou

by czhu12 1mo ago

It really never grokked with me why there isn't just "open source Datadog" that can be installed and used. End to end, stateful, that we can just self host. Our team tried to set up open telemetry to replace Datadog and got totally crushed in complexity. The model of having Open Telemetry just be for standardizing & exporting to other backends, needing glue for each part of the setup was nuts.

reactordev 1mo ago
Signoz? But yes it seemed like OTel was more interested in being a spec than a tool.
frez1 1mo ago
isn't this exactly what the LGTM stack is?
losingthefight 1mo ago
I run OSS Grafana with Loki, Prometheus, and Tempo. I use an Alloy sidecar taking in OTEL and scraping logs.feom my Go services and selfhost the stack. Once you need to scale it gets a bit more complicated but it's all still OSS. The biggest challenge I have is that each data source needs it's own query language, which DD and the like don't. That's why at my day job they went with DD despite the costs. Still OTEL but the querying is the same. We are also looking at Dash0 but for all of my personal and consulting jobs, OSS LGTM/P works good for me.
pphysch 1mo ago
There is, it's called VictoriaMetrics/Logs/Traces. https://victoriametrics.com/ https://victoriametrics.com/
- rtpg 1mo ago
  We use victoriametrics, but I believe that's just the collector side of it cuz we also query into it with grafana. Datadog isn't just a collector, but the whole querying UI as well, right?
  - pphysch 1mo ago
    Yes, Grafana seems to be the best free querying frontend across multiple data sources right now. But each Victoria product has its own built-in query GUI as well.
- dengolius 1mo ago
  Would you like to share your success story using this software?
  - pphysch 1mo ago
    I believe I first deployed VictoriaMetrics almost 5 years ago and have had zero regrets. Was also evaluating Thanos and InfluxDB at the time. The lead dev is super passionate about straightforward software that just works, and it shows. Later my coworker deployed VictoriaLogs in about 15 minutes, added it to our syslog targets. Night and day compared to Elastic. Use both of them probably every day through Grafana.
luckydata 1mo ago
Signoz
arccy 1mo ago
clickstack https://clickhouse.com/clickstack https://clickhouse.com/clickstack is the closest i've seen to the datadog experience

by czhu12 1mo ago

reactordev 1mo ago

Signoz? But yes it seemed like OTel was more interested in being a spec than a tool.

frez1 1mo ago

isn't this exactly what the LGTM stack is?

losingthefight 1mo ago

I run OSS Grafana with Loki, Prometheus, and Tempo. I use an Alloy sidecar taking in OTEL and scraping logs.feom my Go services and selfhost the stack. Once you need to scale it gets a bit more complicated but it's all still OSS. The biggest challenge I have is that each data source needs it's own query language, which DD and the like don't. That's why at my day job they went with DD despite the costs. Still OTEL but the querying is the same. We are also looking at Dash0 but for all of my personal and consulting jobs, OSS LGTM/P works good for me.

pphysch 1mo ago

There is, it's called VictoriaMetrics/Logs/Traces. https://victoriametrics.com/ https://victoriametrics.com/

rtpg 1mo ago
We use victoriametrics, but I believe that's just the collector side of it cuz we also query into it with grafana. Datadog isn't just a collector, but the whole querying UI as well, right?
- pphysch 1mo ago
  Yes, Grafana seems to be the best free querying frontend across multiple data sources right now. But each Victoria product has its own built-in query GUI as well.
dengolius 1mo ago
Would you like to share your success story using this software?
- pphysch 1mo ago
  I believe I first deployed VictoriaMetrics almost 5 years ago and have had zero regrets. Was also evaluating Thanos and InfluxDB at the time. The lead dev is super passionate about straightforward software that just works, and it shows. Later my coworker deployed VictoriaLogs in about 15 minutes, added it to our syslog targets. Night and day compared to Elastic. Use both of them probably every day through Grafana.

luckydata 1mo ago

Signoz

arccy 1mo ago

clickstack https://clickhouse.com/clickstack https://clickhouse.com/clickstack is the closest i've seen to the datadog experience