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You’d have to tariff fruits and vegetables like crazy to make the American varieties more expensive than oceanic shipped produce. That seems a fairly steep pric
by kasey_junk 1mo ago
You’d have to tariff fruits and vegetables like crazy to make the American varieties more expensive than oceanic shipped produce. That seems a fairly steep price for the Canadian consumer.
Which highlights the problems with tariffs, they are self harming. You have to be willing to give up better alternatives for some other reason, and food is a hard one.
- diego_moita 1mo ago> You’d have to tariff fruits and vegetables like crazy to make the American varieties more expensive than oceanic shipped produce. Bullshit. I already see in the supermarket (Canadian Superstore) oranges from South Africa, lemons from Morocco, broccoli from Mexico, mangoes from Malaysia, fish from the Philippines, coconut from Vietnam, kiwis from Italy, etc. Yes, oceanic shipping adds to the cost. But most of those countries already have cheaper labor, and that partially offsets the extra cost.
- kasey_junk 1mo agoMangoes and South Asian fish don’t grow close to you no matter what. You don’t think bull shipping Mexican tomatoes via the ocean isn’t going to cost more than the same tomato shipped by the US land route? If you were going to take that tariff money to build up a local tomato industry it might make sense, Canada already has a growing hot house industry. But don’t kid yourself, tariffs cost the consumer and for low margin highly seasonal and subject to going bad goods like produce is about the worst case scenario.
- diego_moita 1mo agoWhatever man... If you want people to buy stuff from you Americans then just try to stop pushing forward American imperialism down into everyone's throats. This isn't just about money, it is about my country's sovereignty.
- kasey_junk 1mo agoThat’s a reasonable reason to apply tariffs. But don’t assume it’s _us_ paying that tax. It’s you. We get to get taxed on the other side by paying more for Canadian goods.
- jjtwixman 1mo agoIt's not about economics, it's about politics. The free world hates you. You just don't realise it yet.
- kasey_junk 1mo agoSadly most of us do realize it. But this is why tariffs are so pernicious. Because you hate me, you are going to tax yourself. It’s a negative sum world view. It’s bad enough that Trump believes the nonsense, he’s been able to export it.
- diego_moita 1mo ago> It’s you. Only if I buy "Made in America". Whenever possible, it won't happen.
- kasey_junk 1mo agoNope. Not how prices work. If you have a replacement good that would be cheaper but you artificially inflate it with a tax you are forcing that tax on every transaction. Again, if you think that tax is valid, feel free but tariffs costs are born by the consumer in the tariff applying country, ask us how we know…
- _whiteCaps_ 1mo agoNew Zealand apples are literally the same price as the US ones around here in BC.
- kasey_junk 1mo agoNew Zealand is having a bumper apple crop this year. Literally one of the best in 30 years. And umm American apple season hasn’t started yet. https://www.thepress.co.nz/rural/360955858/bumper-harvest-apples-and-pears https://www.thepress.co.nz/rural/360955858/bumper-harvest-ap...