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I get it, but tariffs will only make things more expensive for Canadians, too. I've got a better idea. 1) Repeal all DMCA-like laws. Make it explicitly legal

I get it, but tariffs will only make things more expensive for Canadians, too. I've got a better idea. 1) Repeal all DMCA-like laws. Make it explicitly legal to break a digital lock to repair a device, run custom code, install third-party parts, or just tinker and hack with your own devices and software. 2) Ban parts-pairing. Prohibit manufacturers (looking at you Apple & John Deere,) from using cryptographic serialization to block independent mechanics and technicians from swapping parts. 3) Legalize "Adversarial Interoperability" (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adversarial-interoperability https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adversarial-interopera...) 4) Copyright reform. That's it. This would make things cheaper and better for Canadians. Lutnick and Trump would seethe eternally, but it would be downright excellent for Canada and a shining beacon unto the world.

diego_moita 2mo ago
> but tariffs will only make things more expensive for Canadians, too. Yes, there is no war without pain. But I am willing to face the pain. However, in the long run, the pain might bring good. It might help products from other countries to enter the Canadian market. I hope to see more food, cars and appliances from Latin America, Europe, Asia and Africa in the Canadian market. Elbows up, at last.
adverbly 2mo ago
I love the concept. I'd be happy to see the solution to consumer pain And economic productivity to pass permanently pro productivity and pro consumer policies. Anti monopoly stuff. Maybe a growth policy like land value tax. I'd need to hear from some experts to know which specific policies would be best though. Ideally you choose some policies that are not perceived as going nuclear, or which leave open counters, or which you would want to remove after a deal is made. In general, going heavier into consumer/data protection laws and proceeding to prosecute both the Canadian and American monopolies would be amazing though.
- A_D_E_P_T 2mo ago
  > In general, going heavier into consumer/data protection laws and proceeding to prosecute both the Canadian and American monopolies would be amazing though. IMO you don't want lawfare -- but rather you want to remove bad laws like the DMCA (and related), and the life-plus-70 copyright term, and thus foster more innovation and growth. It's easiest to repeal anti-consumer/anti-commons laws.
xyzzy_plugh 2mo ago
I'd love this too, but it is impossible. If you believe it's possible then you fundamentally misunderstand how greatly coupled our countries are. A rather large amount of Canadian industry is benefiting from these regulations. Adopting policies like these would be tremendously disruptive and cause a lot of short term issues, upsetting manufacturers, foreign owned subsidiaries (who employ a lot of people), unions and retailers. I'd love to see copyright reform though.
- A_D_E_P_T 2mo ago
  > A rather large amount of Canadian industry is benefiting from these regulations. Adopting policies like these would be tremendously disruptive and cause a lot of short term issues, upsetting manufacturers, foreign owned subsidiaries (who employ a lot of people), unions and retailers. Why? This didn't even exist until 2011: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Modernization_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Modernization_Act And how would something like banning parts pairing "cause a lot of short-term issues"? Existing supply chains would remain intact. They'd simply be broadened, eventually, by new entrants. If incumbents leave the market in a fit of pique, you can rest assured that the gaps will be filled, and that those incumbents may very well be liable for breach of contract if they refuse to service existing Canadian customers.
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testing22321 2mo ago
Also remove all tariffs on Chinese EVs, and remove the vehicle limit cap. Sales of US vehicles in Canada would approach zero in just a few years.
- A_D_E_P_T 2mo ago
  The problem is that Canada makes ~1.3M cars/year -- and about 1M of those are for Japanese manufacturers like Toyota and Honda. With unbounded Chinese imports at Chinese prices, a sizable fraction of that domestic industry is going to vanish. Yet what I'd suggest is to go a step further rather than retreat: Subsidize EV production (including from Chinese firms) on the condition that final assembly or some fraction of production is done in Canada. Keep the jobs, make cleaner cars more efficiently, and make them available to Canadian consumers at reduced (subsidized) prices. ...Then export those subsidized vehicles to Europe and wherever else, where they might benefit from favorable EU-Canada or Brazil-Canada trade policies.
samizdis 2mo ago
Cory Doctorow wrote a piece about DMCA wrt Canada and US tariffs in January [0], "A winning trade war strategy for Canada", which chimes with your position. I admire his work, and thought that you might like to read it, if you've not already done so. [0] https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/12/disenshittification-nation-2/#heated-rivalry https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/12/disenshittification-natio...
- A_D_E_P_T 2mo ago
  Yeah, my ideas on this basically come from Doctorow. That guy really has it figured out.
timbit42 2mo ago
What about export tariffs instead?

diego_moita 2mo ago

> but tariffs will only make things more expensive for Canadians, too. Yes, there is no war without pain. But I am willing to face the pain. However, in the long run, the pain might bring good. It might help products from other countries to enter the Canadian market. I hope to see more food, cars and appliances from Latin America, Europe, Asia and Africa in the Canadian market. Elbows up, at last.

adverbly 2mo ago

I love the concept. I'd be happy to see the solution to consumer pain And economic productivity to pass permanently pro productivity and pro consumer policies. Anti monopoly stuff. Maybe a growth policy like land value tax. I'd need to hear from some experts to know which specific policies would be best though. Ideally you choose some policies that are not perceived as going nuclear, or which leave open counters, or which you would want to remove after a deal is made. In general, going heavier into consumer/data protection laws and proceeding to prosecute both the Canadian and American monopolies would be amazing though.

A_D_E_P_T 2mo ago
> In general, going heavier into consumer/data protection laws and proceeding to prosecute both the Canadian and American monopolies would be amazing though. IMO you don't want lawfare -- but rather you want to remove bad laws like the DMCA (and related), and the life-plus-70 copyright term, and thus foster more innovation and growth. It's easiest to repeal anti-consumer/anti-commons laws.

xyzzy_plugh 2mo ago

I'd love this too, but it is impossible. If you believe it's possible then you fundamentally misunderstand how greatly coupled our countries are. A rather large amount of Canadian industry is benefiting from these regulations. Adopting policies like these would be tremendously disruptive and cause a lot of short term issues, upsetting manufacturers, foreign owned subsidiaries (who employ a lot of people), unions and retailers. I'd love to see copyright reform though.

A_D_E_P_T 2mo ago
> A rather large amount of Canadian industry is benefiting from these regulations. Adopting policies like these would be tremendously disruptive and cause a lot of short term issues, upsetting manufacturers, foreign owned subsidiaries (who employ a lot of people), unions and retailers. Why? This didn't even exist until 2011: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Modernization_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Modernization_Act And how would something like banning parts pairing "cause a lot of short-term issues"? Existing supply chains would remain intact. They'd simply be broadened, eventually, by new entrants. If incumbents leave the market in a fit of pique, you can rest assured that the gaps will be filled, and that those incumbents may very well be liable for breach of contract if they refuse to service existing Canadian customers.

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testing22321 2mo ago

Also remove all tariffs on Chinese EVs, and remove the vehicle limit cap. Sales of US vehicles in Canada would approach zero in just a few years.

A_D_E_P_T 2mo ago
The problem is that Canada makes ~1.3M cars/year -- and about 1M of those are for Japanese manufacturers like Toyota and Honda. With unbounded Chinese imports at Chinese prices, a sizable fraction of that domestic industry is going to vanish. Yet what I'd suggest is to go a step further rather than retreat: Subsidize EV production (including from Chinese firms) on the condition that final assembly or some fraction of production is done in Canada. Keep the jobs, make cleaner cars more efficiently, and make them available to Canadian consumers at reduced (subsidized) prices. ...Then export those subsidized vehicles to Europe and wherever else, where they might benefit from favorable EU-Canada or Brazil-Canada trade policies.

samizdis 2mo ago

Cory Doctorow wrote a piece about DMCA wrt Canada and US tariffs in January [0], "A winning trade war strategy for Canada", which chimes with your position. I admire his work, and thought that you might like to read it, if you've not already done so. [0] https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/12/disenshittification-nation-2/#heated-rivalry https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/12/disenshittification-natio...

A_D_E_P_T 2mo ago
Yeah, my ideas on this basically come from Doctorow. That guy really has it figured out.

timbit42 2mo ago

What about export tariffs instead?