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I think a retaliation for a tariff should be an export tax. Let's say Canada puts a 50% export tax on maple syrup unless the car tariff is withheld
by Gabrys1 1mo ago
I think a retaliation for a tariff should be an export tax. Let's say Canada puts a 50% export tax on maple syrup unless the car tariff is withheld
- unsupp0rted 1mo agoWhat's wrong with Vermont maple syrup?
- Gabrys1 1mo agoI don't know, maybe there's not enough of it? > Canada supplies the overwhelming majority of U.S. maple-syrup imports.
- Gabrys1 1mo agoOh, also add a note on the bottle that this higher price is thanks to your beloved Trump. Canadians are way too nice to do this, but it would be sensational.
- threetonesun 1mo agoNothing, but they don’t make enough. Unless it claims to be 100% Vermont it’s likely blended with Canadian or entirely Canadian maple syrup.
- raddan 1mo agoScarcity is not really the problem—it is price competitiveness. Many, possibly most, maple syrup producers in New England do not sell to national grocery store chains. You go to the sugar house and buy a jug which is typically much more expensive than what you’d find in a grocery store. But you also have more choices, since you can buy from a person who sells different grades. I rarely see more than one grade for sale in a US grocery store. I don’t mind paying a little extra for something I use in such small quantities to support a neighbor.
- tredre3 1mo ago> Many, possibly most, maple syrup producers in New England do not sell to national grocery store chains. But scarcity is the problem. Unless you're able to demonstrate that the low supply is artificial, and that maple syrup producers are a cartel and restrict their own production and distribution chain, as well as block any newcomers from trying to enter large-scale production. Because as is is, if they manage to sell their entire supply through their sugar shacks, then it obviously means they don't have enough capacity to supply grocery chains, let alone on a national level. That's the literal definition of scarce supply.
- raddan 1mo agoThey absolutely restrict their own production. Have you ever been to one of these things before? There are probably a few maple syrup producers out there trying to scale up, but for the vast majority, it’s a lifestyle/supplemental income kind of thing. They tap some trees, invite everyone over and charge a few bucks for pancakes while they boil their syrup, and then move on to other things when the ground thaws. The University of Vermont has been trying to set up sap production as a competitive form of agriculture but people just aren’t interested. Literally every syrup producer I’ve met was in it for the romance.
- Gabrys1 1mo agoMake it car exports as well. A small 5-10% export fee, so that the premium Americans pay for the cars is distributed between both countries
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- kimos 1mo agoQuebec alone produces more maple syrup than everywhere else in the world combined, by a wide margin.
- unsupp0rted 1mo agoSure, but that's no reason not to rely on locally-sourced products where possible, and Vermont makes it possible in this case
- jappgar 1mo agoNo it doesn't make it possible. It can't possibly make up the difference.
- unsupp0rted 1mo agoWhy not?
- kimos 1mo agoMaple farms take decades to reach maturity. The US imports about 4x more maple from Canada than Vermont’s entire production capacity. It’s not possible. So consumers will pay double or substitute with flavoured corn syrup.
- locallost 1mo agoI also had this idea, but it can't be something you can get in another place. But for something like potash it might work. But I think overall it does not really matter. A war is a war, so there will be no real winners. Here we go again.
- philistine 1mo agoQuébec makes 80% of the world’s maple syrup. You pretty much can’t get it anywhere else.
- dragon-hn 1mo agoIt would be the most effective way to hurt Americans. But it isn’t politically possible for Canada to do this. The two segments that would be most effective, oil & gas and potash happen to come from provinces that already have significant issues with the federal government. One is even flirting with separation, which would be inflamed by export taxes. Canada is also very venerable to similar actions by the Americans. Refined oil products, fertilizers and oil & gas pipeline transit all come from the Americans. It is fun to imagine Canada sticking it to the Americans with export taxes, but it will never happen.
- jappgar 1mo agoThe primary issue they have is not being allowed to become vassal states of US empire quickly enough. "Western alienation" is created and maintained by American propaganda.