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Electric shock gloves in use by police departments in Bellevue, Omaha
- rendx 1mo agoCompliant Technologies Glove 4&5 User Manual https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cQ176YYgNl3VXCgLX0ScoihsfXyATpfY/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cQ176YYgNl3VXCgLX0ScoihsfXy...
- donkey_brains 1mo ago“The device is not effective through clothing or hair and can be degraded on individuals and animals that are extremely hairy.” Black bloc for protesting is going to become more popular.
- whycome 1mo agoSometimes something like a hulking Austrian body builder seems like a weird design for a human killing machine. Then real life suggests people may wear hairy gorilla suits to avoid pain compliance gloves during protests.
- ceejayoz 1mo agoThey're more for post-detainment torture. They'll keep shooting Black Bloc folks in the face from afar with 40mm tear gas canisters as they do currently. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/08/ice-shock-gloves-torture-compliant-technologies-jeff-niklaus/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/08/ice-shock-glove... > “In today’s society, you know, everybody’s filming everything, everybody has a cell phone,” Glueck said. If an officer punches someone on camera, that can go viral in an instant; even a standard taser leaves puncture wounds. But “the glove is low optic, and it looks better on video, and it looks better to those witnesses. With a glove, there are no burn marks or scars.”
- spwa4 1mo agoWhat would happen if someone was to wear clothing with extremely low resistance wires in them? Because that would likely cause rapid heating in the glove, probably causing it to catch on fire by itself, or if especially badly designed, which these probably are, set off a lithium fire in the battery (2000+ degrees, can't be extinguished with water, in fact, really bad idea to try that). Does clothing with, say, silver wire woven into it exist? I bet people make that. Wear an antistatic vest with a silver wire pullover and I bet that glove will decide to disable itself, or worse.
- dtagames 1mo agoGhandi said you can judge a society by how it treats animals. And to that we can add "and it's schoolchildren."
- tchalla 1mo agoGandhi*
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- vlovich123 1mo agoSetting aside the morality of these vs other force options, these run at $1650/pair if I’m reading it correctly - $66k for 40. Anyone else find it like an insane amount of money for a device that’s so simple?
- xboxnolifes 1mo agoSounds pretty cheap to me for such a niche product. How many electric glove suppliers (and buyers) do you think there are?
- Aachen 1mo agoFeel free to recreate and calibrate and guarantee safe shock levels to offer it cheaper if that fits your morals
- rootusrootus 1mo agoWhy is there a requirement to guarantee it safe? I don't believe that requirement exists for tasers, for example, which are just considered less lethal. Same for rubber bullets.
- nine_k 1mo agoIf you're selling it as a nonlethal weapon, you should somehow make certain it's not going to kill except by freak accident, and cannot be used to kill deliberately. Also, consider the safely of the police officer.
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- jst1fthsdys 1mo agoI have bad news about what is considered non lethal. They sell non lethal tank rounds, for instance.
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- 01100011 1mo agoAre these worse than Tasers? I would think a Taser's form factor makes it far more likely to be used.
- tamimio 1mo agoNot really, because the whole idea is to have it used in discrete manner, a taser will be obvious and mostly recorded and shared online, plus once used there’s some time needed to reuse it again (the taser gun), those on the other hand, are discrete and can be used on multiple people quickly. The forced military draft will be “fun” to watch in the US!
- ceejayoz 1mo agoThey're torture devices. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/08/ice-shock-gloves-torture-compliant-technologies-jeff-niklaus/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/08/ice-shock-glove... > In 2022, Assistant Chief Adam Glueck, of the Cape Girardeau Police Department in southeastern Missouri, purchased electric shock gloves for his officers after learning about them at a trade show. And his employees, he said, couldn’t get enough of them. “If I try to take away the gloves from those officers at this point I think we may have a mutiny on our hands,” Glueck joked on a podcast interview a couple of years later. “They’ve grown really attached.” > The shock gloves, he went on to explain, allow their wearer to inflict pain without leaving the sort of marks that could look bad to witnesses or leave an officer vulnerable to lawsuits. > “In today’s society, you know, everybody’s filming everything, everybody has a cell phone,” Glueck said. If an officer punches someone on camera, that can go viral in an instant; even a standard taser leaves puncture wounds. But “the glove is low optic, and it looks better on video, and it looks better to those witnesses. With a glove, there are no burn marks or scars.”
- grim_io 1mo agoWaterboarding is just a packaging problem. Make it portable and convenient and those officers are going to love it.
- _DeadFred_ 1mo agoYes, because they normalize the escalation to violence/to torture for coercion over de-escalation/actual policing while removing the optics issue of visibly using direct violence/torture on random citizens when using a Taser.
- piyh 1mo agoThe Legend of Korra come to life
- amazingamazing 1mo agoI do not see the big deal. I guess some have never encountered paraprofessionals and heard their stories?
- Havoc 1mo agoFrom afar the US is really sounding quite scary lately
- kstrauser 1mo agoFrom anear, too.
- MYEUHD 1mo agoThis is nothing new for US Look up Guantanamo Bay and Abu Gharib
- tavavex 1mo agoBut the fact that your first association for devices now used on children in the US is Guantanamo Bay is at least newer, right?
- api 1mo agoPeople get what they voted for.
- skinfaxi 1mo agoThe polls have been pretty divisive and relatively narrow, haven't they? A tyranny of the simple majority.
- api 1mo agoMost don’t vote. That’s a form of voting. A lot who don’t vote have this mistaken idea that “well nobody perfectly fits my values.” They never will. It’s always a vote for what you think is a somewhat better outcome, especially if you only have two options.
- atmavatar 1mo agoI suspect many more have realized that unless they live in one of a half dozen or so states, their vote for Presidential (or even Senate) candidates is unlikely to affect the outcome. For example, the state I live in (Kansas) has chosen the Republican candidate in every election in my lifetime, and in only one election has it been by a margin of less than 13% -- due to Ross Perot being a spoiler in 1992, where he took 27% of the state's vote. My vote for President doesn't really matter, no matter which candidate I care to support, because I already know the outcome in my state. As such, back in the days when Presidential candidates both seemed to have the country's best interests at heart, even if I disagreed with one or both candidates' policies to do so, I generally didn't bother.
- kstrauser 1mo agoHow compatible are these with a super soaker filled with saline? Asking for a friend.
- ungreased0675 1mo agoI want the police to have a lot of options available to them, to avoid the “everything looks like a nail” problem. Something about this feels icky though. Maybe because it’s easy to imagine this being misused or abused.
- skeledrew 1mo agoWith a little imagination, anything can be misused and abused.
- ceejayoz 1mo ago> I want the police to have a lot of options available to them, to avoid the “everything looks like a nail” problem. That was the idea behind tasers - that they'd reduce use of guns. In reality, they now get used in scenarios where less (or no) force used to be more normal. Why learn de-escalation techniques when you can just shoot a taser? https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/police-use-force-impact-less-lethal-weapons-and-tactics https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/police-use-force-impact-... > A critical research question is whether officers can become too reliant on CEDs. During interviews with officers and trainers, the researchers heard comments that hinted at a "lazy cop syndrome." Some officers may turn to a CED too early in an encounter and may rely on a CED rather than on their conflict resolution skills or even on hands-on applications.
- ThrustVectoring 1mo agoThat's because they are extraordinarily suitable as covert torture devices. When government officials use them to inflict pain, they do not leave physical evidence and the only video evidence from filming the interaction is how long hands were on the detainee.
- whycome 1mo agoAh yes. This was the future they envisioned. Nothing cruel and unusual about this. Because it’s not “punishment” - just incidental assault during the booking process. > method to gain control of a subject through pain compliance
- battailous-stra 1mo agoThis looks pretty similar to those randomly timed electro-stimulation pads attached to the butt that you sometimes see in furry BDSM circles.
- roryirvine 1mo agoThe highest intensity TENS kit used in BDSM won't feel worse than a harsh elastic band snap, and most units produce way less than that. These gloves are substantially more powerful, so will feel more like being whipped or caned - unbearably intense sharp, stinging pain.
- asdefghyk 1mo agoI always though in order to be able use these gadgets, The user should be required to submit themselves to its use on themselves. That includes stun guns and these hand shock gadgets.
- ceejayoz 1mo agoThat's already common practice in police (and military) training. (For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcVQ_k6d9J0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcVQ_k6d9J0) It's a little different when it's your buddies testing them out versus torturing a suspect.
- donkey_brains 1mo agoFlagged? This is a story about technology and its effects on society. Get stuffed with this censorship BS.
- threecheese 1mo agoCensorship BS? This is being discussed in every social forum in the country. Divisive topics == divisive attitudes, and in exchange for peace some of us are fine with not talking about some shit in some places. Dang and team are walking a fine line - telling them to get stuffed is inappropriate and illustrative of why this is a problem in the first place. edit: Ohhhhhhh the /u is donkey_brains; did I take the troll bait? jfc I hate this timeline
- archagon 1mo agoOh yes, this is totally off topic, let’s just keep talking about the same LLM subjects over and over and over and over again.
- _DeadFred_ 1mo agoIf time travel gets invented it's going to be on every social forum in the country, which would be grounds to not talk about it on HN I guess? Authoritarian police state high tech cyberpunk torture devices seem about as 'hack news'ie as something can get.
- scruple 1mo agoI haven't seen it anywhere else. I was on Reddit before I came to HN this morning.
- threecheese 1mo agoFair. My anxiety is my own thing, and shouldn’t be projected onto everyone; at the same time, “get stuffed” just set me off.
- tavavex 1mo ago> In one case at a high school, the officer used a glove on a student for "noncompliance." In the other, Cvitanov said, the gloves were used on a student who "was trying to get into the school that shouldn't have been there." Horrifying life-or-death examples here. I totally understand the use of $1500 shock devices on schoolchildren now, looks like the lives of these officers were on the line and they were forced to use them as a last-ditch effort. I'm looking forward to the rollout of shock collars for automated dispensing of justice on these evil monsters, such as kids who say 'no' or try to get into their school when the officer doesn't want them to. Wouldn't want the cops to put themselves in danger by approaching these future violent criminals. Remember - these examples were probably selected as the best at showing why these gloves are so necessary. They're putting their best foot forward here.