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Good. Let the techbros understand we don't want a surveillance state.
by buellerbueller 2mo ago
Good. Let the techbros understand we don't want a surveillance state.
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- jvanderbot 2mo agoI agree. However the agent here with the power is the state and local and federal government. They're just going to do drones next if they can't do sensor masts. Everyone who authorized this funding needs to be voted out. If we really care the signal is to take away the power of people who decided to use this.
- recursivedoubts 2mo agoIf voting made a difference they wouldn't let us do it. Stop blaming the victims.
- nicman23 2mo agolol trump got voted in. i blame the voters - there are not victims here
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- RobotToaster 2mo agoYou think Cop Kamala would've opposed flock? lol, lmao even.
- SpicyLemonZest 2mo agoI think memes and political bubbles are making it very hard for people to reason through the actual principles and mechanisms of democratic governance. The reason the system keeps trying to make you vote for people like "Cop Kamala" is that most Americans like the police (https://news.gallup.com/poll/690959/racial-divide-policing-narrows-years-floyd-death.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/690959/racial-divide-policing-n...); there's no secret set of popular anti-police candidates who some shadowy "they" aren't allowing you to vote for.
- nicman23 2mo agoaccountability? for MY actions?
- saghm 2mo agoCan you be more specific? Are you claiming that the winner is not actually whoever gets the most votes (e.g. voter fraud, corrupt vote counting), or that someone who would not authorize something like this would literally not be allowed to show up on the ballot? Those are the only two scenarios I can think of that would result in the conclusion you're stating. As far as I can tell, people who claim the former are almost overwhelming the ones voting for the people who are worst about stuff like this. I've honestly never seen anyone claim the latter though, so if that's what you believe, elaborating more would be helpful.
- RobotToaster 2mo agoThe last person to stand for president who managed to get political momentum and wanted real change in the system was Eugene Debs, and they arrested him.
- iamnothere 2mo agoTwo others: Bernie Sanders (prevented from winning the primary via unelected superdelegates) Ross Perot (suddenly withdrew under murky circumstances and later claimed his family was threatened) Both wanted significant change, although they were reformists rather than revolutionaries.
- runako 2mo agoAm I missing something here? Perot was on the ballot in 1992, and he won a bunch of votes. IIRC he was the most successful independent candidate in modern times, by vote count. Sanders ran an insurgent campaign while denigrating the party, and didn't win more votes. I seriously don't understand the argument that the person with fewer votes should win the nomination, although I am receptive to hearing a coherent articulation thereof. (Superdelegates did not enter the picture until tens of millions of votes were cast, with Sanders trailing by millions of votes.)
- iamnothere 2mo ago
- Clent 2mo agoExcept there are multiple efforts to make voting more difficult.
- pluralmonad 2mo agoI think my vote might be broken. It keeps not working.
- AndrewKemendo 2mo agoTry power cycling the system
- skinfaxi 2mo agoHah, as if power allows vacuums.
- skinfaxi 2mo ago> Everyone who authorized this funding needs to be voted out. If we really care the signal is to take away the power of people who decided to use this. Yes, and we should continue to nullify convictions for activists fighting this technology on the streets. If they use drones lets shoot them down and nullify those charges too. The court is the final stand and juries are where we the citizens have actual power.
- ydat 2mo agoThey have the warchest. They’ll buy the politicians. Look how the populist right has failed its primaries so hard.
- Cyph0n 2mo agoThe warchest is not enough: the NYC mayoral election and Michigan and Florida Senate (outfunded 16:1) primaries are good examples.
- anonymars 2mo agoRemember, if your vote didn't matter there wouldn't be so much effort to restrict it!
- datsci_est_2015 2mo agoCould you elaborate? Specifically: > Look how the populist right has failed its primaries so hard. From my bubble (we’re all in bubbles), it seems that the populist right are in bed with the technocrat authoritarians, e.g. the Vance-Thiel connection. Losses in primaries would indicate to me that the technocrat authoritarians are not succeeding in purchasing politicians.
- ydat 2mo ago> From my bubble (we’re all in bubbles), it seems that the populist right are in bed with the technocrat authoritarians, e.g. the Vance-Thiel connection. Interesting, in my bubble “populist” right refers more younger more paleo conservative types who feel betrayed by MAGA. Many of these people hate Thiel and Technocrats as much as my Marxist friends. I’m gonna guess (and tell me if I’m wrong) the disconnect is that you may be referring to the Trump admin itself which is indeed in bed with Thiel types. Personally I don’t really bother considering them populist anymore. They seem to mostly be interested in enriching their little circle.
- datsci_est_2015 2mo agoInteresting. MAGA no longer being populist feels like a bit of a bleeding edge take. I don’t disagree necessarily, but I’m not going to put any eggs in that basket until there’s a massive swing at the voting booth both this November and in 2028. Tea Party gave the blueprint for 21st century populist rightwing politics, eschewing much of the baggage of Bush neoconservativism. Then Trump turned the volume up to 12. I’d be surprised to see more novel populist rightwing political dynamics as it feels like the movement is running out of gas after a 16 year run (since 2010 primaries). The disillusionment is at a peak.
- Someone1234 2mo agoUnfortunately they may be doubling down. Apple is rumored to be integrating cameras into AirPods[0] that are cloud connected for "AI." They supposedly won't be able to take "pictures" and "video" but will transmit essentially the same information for AI/Siri. Between the reaction to Flock and also the Meta Glasses; I'm legitimately surprised that companies aren't reading the Tea leaves here. But, no, I guess everything needs a camera and a cloud feed of that camera's vision now. PS - And before you say "that is just a rumor" the video file was extracted from Apple's macOS 26.7 RC that showcases how it may work. [0] https://www.macrumors.com/2026/08/17/camera-equipped-airpods-macos-26-7/ https://www.macrumors.com/2026/08/17/camera-equipped-airpods...
- buellerbueller 2mo agoSomeone should invent something that, used in a confined space, will destroy camera sensors (but not human retinas)
- senectus1 2mo agoits not you the tech bros are selling it to. its fascist politicians.
- buellerbueller 2mo agoHence, the destruction, the calls for more destruction, and the lack of indictment. Seems like the people feel left, unjustifiably, out of the loop on this one.