3 ms·
This is a huge win for Bun & Anthropic. I've been keeping an eye on Bun development cycle since they announced the Rust rewrite and the huge drama and backlash
by rwz 1mo ago
This is a huge win for Bun & Anthropic. I've been keeping an eye on Bun development cycle since they announced the Rust rewrite and the huge drama and backlash it generated. They seem to be proving the skeptics wrong with this release.
- iamsaitam 1mo agoWhat exactly has this update led this to be a "huge win"?
- zapnuk 1mo agoThe things stated in the announcement? Mainly node compatibility though more test coverage and different performance improvements.
- rwz 1mo agoI fully AI-driven rewrite of a massive codebase from one language to another within a reasonable release-cycle has never been done before. There was a lot of sentiment around the lines of: - Bun is done for, it's all slop now - there's no way a fully AI-written codebase can work - Jarred is an idiot for trusting AI to rewrite the whole thing - they're never going to release this, there's going to be a billion of bugs This release proved all of this wrong. It also serves as a great advertisement of how capable Anthropic models and harness are to enable this.
- AlexeyBelov 1mo agoI don't think this release definively proved all of this wrong, no.
- kalcode 1mo agoThat's true, it was when they stealthed released it in a application that millions use and no one noticed.
- rwz 1mo agoWhich one did it not prove wrong? The fully AI written version of Bun has released, fixed a ton of bugs that existed in the zig version, added a lot of new features and performance improvements and has been shipping with every single installation of claude code for months, the most widely used LLM-harness out there. By every single measurable metric this is better software than the old hand-written version ever was.
- hungryhobbit 1mo agoIt's way late and seriously over budget, hard to call that a success.
- rwz 1mo agoWhat are you talking about? What is the budget? Was there ever a deadline? Who ever decided those?
- reducesuffering 1mo ago~3 months start to finish and the price of 1 engineer for a year, to rewrite a critical infra codebase that tens of millions of user software relies on. Truly the goalposts keep moving. This kind of project would've have been 10x the effort and price a few years ago.
- aenis 1mo agoYeah, crucially, a lot of such projects never get greenlit. Claude building stuff means a lot of things that everybody wanted to do, just couldn't allocate the attention or other resources - now get built.
- moljac024 1mo agoIt's likely much closer to that price if you don't calculate with subsidized token pricing.
- reducesuffering 1mo agoOnce a model like Fable/Mythos is trained, that was used for this project, the inference costs are profitable. CapEx vs. OpEx. Every new Zig->Rust port of this caliber using Fable/Mythos costs the standard token price, it's not subsidized. The model already exists for the original CapEx, you can do 1,000 ports of this for standard token pricing.
- internet2000 1mo agoIt's an unconditional success no matter how you slice it.
- daorhe2272 1mo agoIt is for sure a big accomplishment, but without having paid too much attention to the drama, I understand that the porting was meant to show Anthropic's models amazing capabilities. From what we know, the process took longer than expected and involved dozens of engineers from Anthropic actively working on it, presumably each one with dozens of SOTA agents helping. It definitely was an expensive process when you sum up the engineers hourly rate and the tokens consumed by frontier LLMs. It's not something that a small team engineers can accomplish with a Claude Max subscription (obviously not, but those are the vibes some people were getting with the project).