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Well, In any healthy organization or relationship, there should be no problem with someone not knowing about/understanding something. If someone is feigning co

by nchmy 2mo ago

Well, In any healthy organization or relationship, there should be no problem with someone not knowing about/understanding something. If someone is feigning competence, that's the fundamental problem, not AI

bayindirh 2mo ago
I don’t agree. I have seen many knowledgeable people fall into AI so hard that they are happy that they are not writing code, reading things and using their brains to understand or produce something. These people know (or knew) what they were talking about so well, and was very passionate about their area as well. Not knowing something is alright, but surrendering their whole knowledge and passion to a statistical model is not. Now they are almost meat proxies, which is sad.
- nchmy 2mo ago
  It's sad that this has happened, but having knowledge/skill doesn't mean you have wisdom, integrity, discernment, etc... Those are an entirely different plane of understanding, and are what guard against our worst impulses and temptations. Unfortunately there isn't much focus on these things anymore (and, in fact, they're often denigrated and attacked). The result that you've observed is inevitable. I genuinely worry even more about young people, who are being formed in this anti-thinking, anti-responsibility environment. I'm sure there's some who are strongly resisting it and seeking out genuine knowledge and connections. But surely most are happy to just vibe their way through school and life.
  - duskdozer 2mo ago
    To a degree I can't even blame them. It seems we as a society largely reward those who cheat, steal, and scam, and don't reward integrity and hard work the same way. So "why bother?" I can see it being. It doesn't end well, but none of the anti-intellectualism does.
    - bayindirh 2mo ago
      Maybe I am an outlier, but I never looked to external affirmation as a guide or a goal for my actions. I have a simple rule: Do whatever makes you sleep in peace with yourself. IOW, My only guiding principles are my own ethics and conscience. I don't care what others are doing. I also don't compete with others. I do what I do and own the consequences of my actions. I might not have a mansion or a fleet of luxury cars, but this is not what makes me happy, anyway.

by nchmy 2mo ago

bayindirh 2mo ago

I don’t agree. I have seen many knowledgeable people fall into AI so hard that they are happy that they are not writing code, reading things and using their brains to understand or produce something. These people know (or knew) what they were talking about so well, and was very passionate about their area as well. Not knowing something is alright, but surrendering their whole knowledge and passion to a statistical model is not. Now they are almost meat proxies, which is sad.

nchmy 2mo ago
It's sad that this has happened, but having knowledge/skill doesn't mean you have wisdom, integrity, discernment, etc... Those are an entirely different plane of understanding, and are what guard against our worst impulses and temptations. Unfortunately there isn't much focus on these things anymore (and, in fact, they're often denigrated and attacked). The result that you've observed is inevitable. I genuinely worry even more about young people, who are being formed in this anti-thinking, anti-responsibility environment. I'm sure there's some who are strongly resisting it and seeking out genuine knowledge and connections. But surely most are happy to just vibe their way through school and life.
- duskdozer 2mo ago
  To a degree I can't even blame them. It seems we as a society largely reward those who cheat, steal, and scam, and don't reward integrity and hard work the same way. So "why bother?" I can see it being. It doesn't end well, but none of the anti-intellectualism does.
  - bayindirh 2mo ago
    Maybe I am an outlier, but I never looked to external affirmation as a guide or a goal for my actions. I have a simple rule: Do whatever makes you sleep in peace with yourself. IOW, My only guiding principles are my own ethics and conscience. I don't care what others are doing. I also don't compete with others. I do what I do and own the consequences of my actions. I might not have a mansion or a fleet of luxury cars, but this is not what makes me happy, anyway.