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What makes you think they are being absolutist when saying fuck Russia? You can disapprove of an unprovoked invasion from many, many ethical perspectives withou
by 100721 3mo ago
What makes you think they are being absolutist when saying fuck Russia? You can disapprove of an unprovoked invasion from many, many ethical perspectives without going near absolutism.
- teyopi 3mo agoI don't really see them saying fuck the US, even though they've bombed girls schools in Iran. Or saying fuck Israel because of their super well documented ongoing genocide. "You can disapprove of ... from many, many ethical perspectives without going near absolutism."
- 100721 3mo agoDid they find evidence of their service being used to bomb schools in Iran, like they found for Russia tracking launch sites in Ukraine? If not, then why would they go on such a tangent? Do you expect them to list every one of their personal geopolitical stances, regardless of the relevance to the article?
- penteract 3mo ago> like they found for Russia tracking launch sites in Ukraine My understanding of that section was that Ukraine were using it to find launch sites in occupied parts of Ukraine - they go on to describe how they helped someone who had been doing the tracking: [From article] > We emailed back and forth and provided documentation on how to run the predictor locally. Edit: my recollection of which parts of Ukraine are occcupied was wrong, leaving me rather confused about who they thought they were helping.
- aleksejs 3mo agoI think the actor they were monitoring was not tracking real launches but rather simulating where a hypothetical balloon launched from their territory would land.
- enquirewithin 3mo ago> Do you expect them to list every one of their personal geopolitical stances, regardless of the relevance to the article? The author of the article lives in Melbourne, so I can assure you, they absolutely do given half a chance.
- fierycatnet 3mo ago[flagged]
- Dylan16807 3mo agoYou seem to be mixing up the words "planned" and "provoked" here.
- fierycatnet 3mo ago[flagged]
- Dylan16807 3mo agoAnd nothing that was simmering back then justified the original invasion.
- fierycatnet 3mo ago[flagged]
- 12_throw_away 3mo agoI'm all ears, then - please, enlighten us.
- fierycatnet 3mo agoI'd rather not engage in politics in HN, I'm surprised the article made it here to begin with like it's Reddit. Also, if people already made up their mind then there's no reason for me to waste my time trying to explain anything, it will take a stand alone post with multiple pages if were really to go that route. I will say this, my position is similar to what Mearsheimer has been talking about when it comes to this conflict. Any of his lectures will brief you in on the nuance.
- roenxi 3mo agoWell, yes. But the US launches fairly regular unprovoked invasions. We might be watching them ramping up to one in Iran even as we type, it is quite a delicate situation. So the author clearly isn't worried about Russia just because they launched an unprovoked invasion or they wouldn't be willing to deal with the US. She must have other reasons.