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What makes you think they are being absolutist when saying fuck Russia? You can disapprove of an unprovoked invasion from many, many ethical perspectives withou
by 100721 1mo ago
What makes you think they are being absolutist when saying fuck Russia? You can disapprove of an unprovoked invasion from many, many ethical perspectives without going near absolutism.
- teyopi 1mo agoI don't really see them saying fuck the US, even though they've bombed girls schools in Iran. Or saying fuck Israel because of their super well documented ongoing genocide. "You can disapprove of ... from many, many ethical perspectives without going near absolutism."
- 100721 1mo agoDid they find evidence of their service being used to bomb schools in Iran, like they found for Russia tracking launch sites in Ukraine? If not, then why would they go on such a tangent? Do you expect them to list every one of their personal geopolitical stances, regardless of the relevance to the article?
- penteract 1mo ago> like they found for Russia tracking launch sites in Ukraine My understanding of that section was that Ukraine were using it to find launch sites in occupied parts of Ukraine - they go on to describe how they helped someone who had been doing the tracking: [From article] > We emailed back and forth and provided documentation on how to run the predictor locally. Edit: my recollection of which parts of Ukraine are occcupied was wrong, leaving me rather confused about who they thought they were helping.
- aleksejs 1mo agoI think the actor they were monitoring was not tracking real launches but rather simulating where a hypothetical balloon launched from their territory would land.
- enquirewithin 1mo ago> Do you expect them to list every one of their personal geopolitical stances, regardless of the relevance to the article? The author of the article lives in Melbourne, so I can assure you, they absolutely do given half a chance.
- fierycatnet 1mo ago[flagged]
- Dylan16807 1mo agoYou seem to be mixing up the words "planned" and "provoked" here.
- fierycatnet 1mo ago[flagged]
- Dylan16807 1mo agoAnd nothing that was simmering back then justified the original invasion.
- fierycatnet 1mo ago[flagged]
- 12_throw_away 1mo agoI'm all ears, then - please, enlighten us.
- fierycatnet 1mo agoI'd rather not engage in politics in HN, I'm surprised the article made it here to begin with like it's Reddit. Also, if people already made up their mind then there's no reason for me to waste my time trying to explain anything, it will take a stand alone post with multiple pages if were really to go that route. I will say this, my position is similar to what Mearsheimer has been talking about when it comes to this conflict. Any of his lectures will brief you in on the nuance.
- roenxi 1mo agoWell, yes. But the US launches fairly regular unprovoked invasions. We might be watching them ramping up to one in Iran even as we type, it is quite a delicate situation. So the author clearly isn't worried about Russia just because they launched an unprovoked invasion or they wouldn't be willing to deal with the US. She must have other reasons.