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1 - Where does vibe coding end and agent-assisted engineering start? Where's the line? 2 - How do you enforce this?

by jorisw 1mo ago

serial_dev 1mo ago
Probably they go by volume... You make 10 commits over the weekend once a month for your fun side project, they won't police it (my assumption they can't and won't). Your slop machines are running day and night, pushing hundreds of commits a day, day and night... You will get on their radar, take a look, then determine "yeah, this person can go somewhere else".
- piloto_ciego 1mo ago
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  - orwin 1mo ago
    > These folks aren't ok And people who feel entitled to free compute/storage are way worse.
    - piloto_ciego 1mo ago
      <rolls eyes>
    - yjftsjthsd-h 1mo ago
      Sourcehut isn't a free service.
  - a2ff6eeb0 1mo ago
    Exactly; being replaced is inevitable, the machines are going to end up more intelligent than us. At some point in the near to moderate future, selling the output of your brain is no longer going to be economically viable. I hope we'll figure out some equitable society before that, but I'm not going to bet on it, so I'll do what I can to be on the side of the winners.
    - piloto_ciego 1mo ago
      I think we will, tbh. But I also think these people saying, “how dare you use AI to write code” for ideological reasons or some variation on that theme are silly.
      - GPerson 1mo ago
        I don’t think they’re silly, though I don’t think it’s right to vilify the end users just because the people who’ve created the technology are criminals and the technology has lots of bad effects overall. Do you think it’s silly if these people protest the technology without vilifying people who choose to use it?
        piloto_ciego 1mo ago
        Oh, I definitely think its silly. "Nobody should use nail guns! It's against the true carpenter ethos." Nobody is spazzing out about Makita because they produce drill drivers and people can't built things with a plane and a manual screw driver. I think it's all silly.
        a2ff6eeb0 1mo ago
        But Makita isn't selling machines that can decide how to build the house, and then go do it. AI tools are a mind and mechanism. They're a full replacement for the human, especially in the software space. I think we're genuinely not far from taking end user tickets and turning them into requirements and working code autonomously. The only remaining work for us monkeys is manual testing and verification that everything is actually working as desired.
        piloto_ciego 1mo ago
        Why does it matter? I would love it if I could get my drill driver to build the cabin for me. It would save me a shitload if work. I actually have no problem with that either? Mechanical minds or mechanical muscles, who cares?

1 - Where does vibe coding end and agent-assisted engineering start? Where's the line? 2 - How do you enforce this?

by jorisw 1mo ago

1 - Where does vibe coding end and agent-assisted engineering start? Where's the line? 2 - How do you enforce this?

Probably they go by volume... You make 10 commits over the weekend once a month for your fun side project, they won't police it (my assumption they can't and won't). Your slop machines are running day and night, pushing hundreds of commits a day, day and night... You will get on their radar, take a look, then determine "yeah, this person can go somewhere else".

piloto_ciego 1mo ago
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- orwin 1mo ago
  > These folks aren't ok And people who feel entitled to free compute/storage are way worse.
  - piloto_ciego 1mo ago
    <rolls eyes>
  - yjftsjthsd-h 1mo ago
    Sourcehut isn't a free service.
- a2ff6eeb0 1mo ago
  Exactly; being replaced is inevitable, the machines are going to end up more intelligent than us. At some point in the near to moderate future, selling the output of your brain is no longer going to be economically viable. I hope we'll figure out some equitable society before that, but I'm not going to bet on it, so I'll do what I can to be on the side of the winners.
  - piloto_ciego 1mo ago
    I think we will, tbh. But I also think these people saying, “how dare you use AI to write code” for ideological reasons or some variation on that theme are silly.
    - GPerson 1mo ago
      I don’t think they’re silly, though I don’t think it’s right to vilify the end users just because the people who’ve created the technology are criminals and the technology has lots of bad effects overall. Do you think it’s silly if these people protest the technology without vilifying people who choose to use it?
      - piloto_ciego 1mo ago
        Oh, I definitely think its silly. "Nobody should use nail guns! It's against the true carpenter ethos." Nobody is spazzing out about Makita because they produce drill drivers and people can't built things with a plane and a manual screw driver. I think it's all silly.
        a2ff6eeb0 1mo ago
        But Makita isn't selling machines that can decide how to build the house, and then go do it. AI tools are a mind and mechanism. They're a full replacement for the human, especially in the software space. I think we're genuinely not far from taking end user tickets and turning them into requirements and working code autonomously. The only remaining work for us monkeys is manual testing and verification that everything is actually working as desired.
        piloto_ciego 1mo ago
        Why does it matter? I would love it if I could get my drill driver to build the cabin for me. It would save me a shitload if work. I actually have no problem with that either? Mechanical minds or mechanical muscles, who cares?