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They may be hunted down and shot. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-10992502 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-10992502

CamperBob2 14y ago
It would probably violate multiple international treaties, but I know I'd be willing to pay $50 or so per shot, if the drone had an onboard weapon that could be aimed over IP. That would do some good in the world, and would be pretty exciting as well. For safety, targeting could be supervised, and approval to fire issued or withheld, by the company selling the camera time. It's something that should probably be licensed by the host country, for the sake of legitimacy.
- adventured 14y ago
  It would be "pretty exciting" to kill humans rather than arrest them and bring them to justice? I don't think there's anything you could ever say to justify that position. It gives me the impression that you're a maniac.
  - RyanZAG 14y ago
    I'm not agreeing with him here, but 'maniac' may be a bit heavy considering the following: https://www.google.com/search?q=rhino+poaching&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=rgD&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ZhzQUOf3OYmmhAeRp4HYCQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1920&bih=978 https://www.google.com/search?q=rhino+poaching&hl=en&#38...
  - xiaoma 14y ago
    Excitement is pretty natural if you look at it rationally. It's when killing humans isn't exciting, or worse yet when it's routine or boring, that you really have to worry.
    - denom 14y ago
      It's worrying when someone is exited to kill people.
- JabavuAdams 14y ago
  That's pretty vicious. If we want to make a less violent world, we need less violent people. Will you add yourself to the target list?
- josscrowcroft 14y ago
  Eye for an eye and the whole world will go blind, buddy
  - CamperBob2 14y ago
    Hoary old cliché is clichéd. In this reality, the $50/shot business model would fall apart in a hurry. After the first couple of poachers were killed by drones, hunting season would be pretty much over. For everybody else, including the endangered animals, life would go on.
    - omegant 14y ago
      Yep, just exactly what is happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Talibans surely are disbanding due to drone attacks.
      - CamperBob2 14y ago
        The Taliban are poaching rhinos in Africa for a living now? Sounds like we've got them on the run, at least.
  - cobrausn 14y ago
    No it doesn't. There'll be one guy left with one eye. How's the last blind guy going to take out the eye of the last guy left whose still got one eye left? All that guy has to do is run away and hide behind a bush. Ghandi was wrong. It's just that nobody's got the balls to come out and say it. -- Bill, Seven Psychopaths
    - josscrowcroft 14y ago
      Hahaha, fantastic.
- htf 14y ago
  That's easy to say for someone living in a rich country. Before you advocate the murder of poachers, remember that they are most quite likely not evil, but rather ordinary poor people just trying to survive. The world is rarely that simple.
  - hnriot 14y ago
    Yes but there's six billion of our species and very few rhino left. You could wipe out all the world's poachers and it be a rounding error on human population. While I don't think advocating killing anyone is a good idea, I have no sympathy for poachers.
    - denom 14y ago
      What are you advocating here? This is a very disturbing statement.
      - tedunangst 14y ago
        Everybody is equal, except the people we don't like.
        sliverstorm 14y ago
        Yeah, it sure is an affront to the basics of civilized society when violent criminals are prosecuted. I mean, what justification is there aside from "we don't like them"?
        yohui 14y ago
        Because I support prosecuting animal poachers, I do not approve of hunting them like animals themselves.
        CamperBob2 14y ago
        (Shrug) Sorry, I'm not 'equal' to a poacher. That's an idea that somebody spun from whole cloth, one that a lot of other people seem to accept as an unjustified axiom.
- rdl 14y ago
  While killing poachers may be on balance the right thing to do, actually taking pleasure in the act of killing, even for "a good cause", tends to have bad effects on the killers. Maybe read LTC Dave Grossman's standard book _On Killing_. http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316040932 http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-So...
  - CamperBob2 14y ago
    This would be the same Col. Grossman who did the talk-show circuit after Columbine explaining all about how Doom made them do it, correct?
tedunangst 14y ago
That's the nice thing about private security firms. They're not technically law enforcement, so there's no need for a trial.

CamperBob2 14y ago

It would probably violate multiple international treaties, but I know I'd be willing to pay $50 or so per shot, if the drone had an onboard weapon that could be aimed over IP. That would do some good in the world, and would be pretty exciting as well. For safety, targeting could be supervised, and approval to fire issued or withheld, by the company selling the camera time. It's something that should probably be licensed by the host country, for the sake of legitimacy.

adventured 14y ago
It would be "pretty exciting" to kill humans rather than arrest them and bring them to justice? I don't think there's anything you could ever say to justify that position. It gives me the impression that you're a maniac.
- RyanZAG 14y ago
  I'm not agreeing with him here, but 'maniac' may be a bit heavy considering the following: https://www.google.com/search?q=rhino+poaching&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=rgD&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ZhzQUOf3OYmmhAeRp4HYCQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1920&bih=978 https://www.google.com/search?q=rhino+poaching&hl=en&#38...
- xiaoma 14y ago
  Excitement is pretty natural if you look at it rationally. It's when killing humans isn't exciting, or worse yet when it's routine or boring, that you really have to worry.
  - denom 14y ago
    It's worrying when someone is exited to kill people.
JabavuAdams 14y ago
That's pretty vicious. If we want to make a less violent world, we need less violent people. Will you add yourself to the target list?
josscrowcroft 14y ago
Eye for an eye and the whole world will go blind, buddy
- CamperBob2 14y ago
  Hoary old cliché is clichéd. In this reality, the $50/shot business model would fall apart in a hurry. After the first couple of poachers were killed by drones, hunting season would be pretty much over. For everybody else, including the endangered animals, life would go on.
  - omegant 14y ago
    Yep, just exactly what is happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Talibans surely are disbanding due to drone attacks.
    - CamperBob2 14y ago
      The Taliban are poaching rhinos in Africa for a living now? Sounds like we've got them on the run, at least.
- cobrausn 14y ago
  No it doesn't. There'll be one guy left with one eye. How's the last blind guy going to take out the eye of the last guy left whose still got one eye left? All that guy has to do is run away and hide behind a bush. Ghandi was wrong. It's just that nobody's got the balls to come out and say it. -- Bill, Seven Psychopaths
  - josscrowcroft 14y ago
    Hahaha, fantastic.
htf 14y ago
That's easy to say for someone living in a rich country. Before you advocate the murder of poachers, remember that they are most quite likely not evil, but rather ordinary poor people just trying to survive. The world is rarely that simple.
- hnriot 14y ago
  Yes but there's six billion of our species and very few rhino left. You could wipe out all the world's poachers and it be a rounding error on human population. While I don't think advocating killing anyone is a good idea, I have no sympathy for poachers.
  - denom 14y ago
    What are you advocating here? This is a very disturbing statement.
    - tedunangst 14y ago
      Everybody is equal, except the people we don't like.
      - sliverstorm 14y ago
        Yeah, it sure is an affront to the basics of civilized society when violent criminals are prosecuted. I mean, what justification is there aside from "we don't like them"?
        yohui 14y ago
        Because I support prosecuting animal poachers, I do not approve of hunting them like animals themselves.
      - CamperBob2 14y ago
        (Shrug) Sorry, I'm not 'equal' to a poacher. That's an idea that somebody spun from whole cloth, one that a lot of other people seem to accept as an unjustified axiom.
rdl 14y ago
While killing poachers may be on balance the right thing to do, actually taking pleasure in the act of killing, even for "a good cause", tends to have bad effects on the killers. Maybe read LTC Dave Grossman's standard book _On Killing_. http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316040932 http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-So...
- CamperBob2 14y ago
  This would be the same Col. Grossman who did the talk-show circuit after Columbine explaining all about how Doom made them do it, correct?

tedunangst 14y ago

That's the nice thing about private security firms. They're not technically law enforcement, so there's no need for a trial.