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I start my music and navigation route before leaving my garage, and any other interactions (volume up/down, skip song) are buttons on my steering wheel. What do
by delecti 2mo ago
I start my music and navigation route before leaving my garage, and any other interactions (volume up/down, skip song) are buttons on my steering wheel. What do I need voice input for?
(I use Android Auto, but it's basically the same thing for these purposes)
- ErroneousBosh 2mo agoDo people really use navigation apps often enough for this to be an issue?
- totallymike 2mo agoAre you asking if people use apps to get directions? I don’t have data to back this up, but I’d guess that nav integration is one of the most popular features of CarPlay and Android Auto. I depend on it for road trips, navigating to unfamiliar destinations, or even just sharing ETAs with people
- JoshTriplett 2mo agoYes, it's one of the most common usages of a phone in the car. And most people I know have exactly that workflow: find and set a navigation destination while parked, then drive there without interacting with the phone.
- delecti 2mo agoI use navigation via Google Maps/Android Auto almost every time I drive anywhere, easily north of 95% of the time.
- ErroneousBosh 2mo agoWhy? Are you driving somewhere completely unfamiliar where you have no mental model of how to get there every time? I just kind of don't get why people are so into it.
- delecti 2mo agoA bunch of reasons, in no particular order: Having my phone visibly in-use makes it easier to avoid the temptation of touching it. I have a long history of playing video games, and seeing a "mini-map" is just how I'm used to navigating, even when I know the way. Having navigation that incorporates real-time conditions helps me avoid construction, traffic jams, or other miscellaneous issues. I have a pretty bad sense of direction, and it takes multiple trips to internalize routes, which doesn't happen because I drive infrequently (typically less than weekly, because I prefer to take the bus).
- ErroneousBosh 2mo agoI guess it didn't occur to me that people might not remember how to get places in real life. I don't think I could stand to have any sort of lit-up screen doing something in my eyeline when I'm driving. I turn off the backlight on the dashboard when I'm driving at night because it annoys me.
- Apocryphon 2mo agoAgain, it's also helpful for warning realtime issues like poor traffic conditions, road obstacles, speed traps, etc.
- ErroneousBosh 2mo agoI don't know why people don't seem to understand what I mean when I say "I don't want any kind of lit-up screen in my field of view for any reason". Why would I care about speed traps or road obstacles? "Poor traffic conditions" isn't really something I can do much about, either.
- Apocryphon 2mo agoThe response is to “it didn't occur to me that people might not remember how to get places in real life”, which is a rather limited understanding of why people might use navigation. I am not here to preach to you the benefits of this technology, simply clarifying an additional use case. There’s no need to conflate your own needs or tastes with the rest of the driving populace, either. Also, those notifications can likely be conveyed using audio-only warnings, anyway. Making all of this discussion a bit moot. Finally the entire benefit of live navigation is to find alternate routes with less traffic! That is something you could literally do about.
- eptcyka 2mo agoEvery day. Not for knowing how to get to a destination necessarily, but to get routed better.
- dmd 2mo agoI'm not sure I've seen anyone drive further than about 10 minutes away without Google Maps in the last 5 years. Or maybe everyone's misunderstanding your question?
- ErroneousBosh 2mo agoI don't really understand why anyone would need sat nav for a ten minute drive.
- Catagris 2mo agoOnce the city you live in gets large enough, memorizing the routes just becomes a non starter. I have my route to work almost memorized but due to construction or crashes it changes so often it is hard to cement it. (Seoul)
- fragmede 2mo agoBecause the traffic isn't known to you but it is to Google. I could take two routes, one is faster depending on circumstances, and Google knows those circumstances.
- ErroneousBosh 2mo agoIs it really faster though? All you have now is two routes with a roughly equal amount of traffic on. One of those routes will be a massive detour.
- paulddraper 2mo agoUnfortunately, accidents are quasi commonplace among my commute.
- Apocryphon 2mo agoHow do you know those routes have a roughly equal amounts of traffic? Or that there’s only two routes? I usually see at least three possible routes with my commute (with some forking), and at least one shortcut. During heavy traffic one optimized route can at least save 10-15 minutes than the slower one(s).
- pifgoe 2mo agoI use navigation apps on any trip where there's a possibility of traffic, because they'll route me around it.
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- quickthrowman 2mo agoI’m perplexed too, but I used to study the Hudson’s map book for my metro area for fun before I could drive and have been driving for 25 years, and I didn’t have a phone with GPS until 2015 or so. I don’t use active navigation, if I don’t know hot go get where I am going I just memorize the portion of the route I don’t know and then drive there. I will occasionally see what route is recommended due to road construction, but I generally know all of the proposed routes so I don’t need GPS once I pick one. I avoid using active GPS navigation so my mental map of the road network stays in my brain, I think orientation/navigation is an important skill to maintain and using active turn-by-turn GPS destroys it.
- tengwar2 2mo agoYes, of course. In my case Waze to get there efficiently, OSMand App for topographic maps, and occasionally Apple Maps (works well with addresses in Calendar) and Sygic. I use them in the car, and on my bike: ruggedised CarPlay / Android Auto screens are rapidly displacing ruggedised satnavs on bikes. Playing audiobooks and podcasts is handy, as is getting text messages read out with dictation for reply, but it's navigation which is the killer app for ACP/AA.