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Careful here. This comes close to precisely what dang thinks is a bannable offense https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49175827 Fwiw whenever you come clos

Careful here. This comes close to precisely what dang thinks is a bannable offense https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49175827 Fwiw whenever you come close to commiting a "HN capital offence" I am biased against the mods :) The sbf vibes are on the nose. Remember that it was a big deal that sbf bought into Anthropic, and many if not most Anthropic employees are EA, the tribe of people I'd rather call "rationalizists". The main thing they rationalize, is of course themselves taking on power and what sbf made famous as uh the linear approach to risk Between Altman and Amodei, I'd say that Amodei is the more dangerous just because he seems even more "reasonable" to nonjerks. You should ask the mods which one of the two they think are more reasonable. It's clear to lobbyists and politicians --- people familiar with the human jungle that is DC--- that Amodei is weirder, though. I think I have a good metric for who is least ethical. Which one on your list is most unlikely to write good satire (or most likely to write unintentional self-satire?) I'd say its Schmidt, followed by Amodei, and then Musk. See Musk on SNL. I think Gates had some TV appearances where he was reasonably funny, almost self-deprecating.

user43928 1mo ago
Interesting, I was not aware of SBF's investment in Anthropic. It's not a good look. If you ask me, SBF ran an obvious scam in a sector that is as a whole a scam. With Anthropic's product, I experience a real benefit today.
- oliculipolicula 1mo ago
  You would probably experience a much larger benefit after Anthropic's product gets stolen and released on GitHub for free. This reminds me of the myth of Prometheus. I think most Greek thinkers would agree that Prometheus was the hero, and Hephaestus a complete jerk, even though one was the master of fire and the other merely stole it. Of course they had to make up a punishment for Prometheus so that he could earn his status the meritocratic way.. Probably much against most people here, I separate the product from the person creating it. As another Anthropic example, there was the math guy at Anthropic who disproved a long running conjecture.. it doesn't look like he's getting Fable and Anthropic the respect he thinks they deserve. The process matters. People are sensitive to disrespect hardcoded in the process, especially against "tried and true" norms, and in most cases they are right. The ability to write satire could be a kind of razor to tell apart the influencers who are likely to be righter than their detractors
  - user43928 1mo ago
    I do not think I'd personally gain much currently, other than saving a few dollars by using a third party inference provider. The Fable quota on the $200 personal plan could be higher, but the difference to Opus 5 or 5.6 Sol is not large enough to gain any real benefit from unlimited access to Fable, for my use. From what I heard their internal 'Model 2' is hardly much better, but hopefully they will have something newer soon.

user43928 1mo ago

Interesting, I was not aware of SBF's investment in Anthropic. It's not a good look. If you ask me, SBF ran an obvious scam in a sector that is as a whole a scam. With Anthropic's product, I experience a real benefit today.

oliculipolicula 1mo ago
You would probably experience a much larger benefit after Anthropic's product gets stolen and released on GitHub for free. This reminds me of the myth of Prometheus. I think most Greek thinkers would agree that Prometheus was the hero, and Hephaestus a complete jerk, even though one was the master of fire and the other merely stole it. Of course they had to make up a punishment for Prometheus so that he could earn his status the meritocratic way.. Probably much against most people here, I separate the product from the person creating it. As another Anthropic example, there was the math guy at Anthropic who disproved a long running conjecture.. it doesn't look like he's getting Fable and Anthropic the respect he thinks they deserve. The process matters. People are sensitive to disrespect hardcoded in the process, especially against "tried and true" norms, and in most cases they are right. The ability to write satire could be a kind of razor to tell apart the influencers who are likely to be righter than their detractors
- user43928 1mo ago
  I do not think I'd personally gain much currently, other than saving a few dollars by using a third party inference provider. The Fable quota on the $200 personal plan could be higher, but the difference to Opus 5 or 5.6 Sol is not large enough to gain any real benefit from unlimited access to Fable, for my use. From what I heard their internal 'Model 2' is hardly much better, but hopefully they will have something newer soon.