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I think it makes the author sound like a dick. Test for yourself: next time you take out the garbage, loudly tell your partner or roommate, “I took out the gar

I think it makes the author sound like a dick. Test for yourself: next time you take out the garbage, loudly tell your partner or roommate, “I took out the garbage. You’re welcome.”

Dylan16807 2mo ago
That's a shared chore. Do you not see the obvious differences in the situation? If they said "you're welcome" about an obligation like paying taxes and also made it very personal, then it would be close in feeling to your scenario. But it's not. If you offer a genuine gift, in a situation where there is no expectation of payback or debt, you can say you're welcome.
- otterley 2mo ago
  It’s impolite and weird to say “you’re welcome” when offering a gift for which the recipient did not first express gratitude. It follows “thank you;” it does not precede it. Try this instead: give a stranger a piece of pre-chewed gum and say “you’re welcome!” Hell, even if it’s not pre-chewed, it’s just presumptuous and rude. You have no idea if they value it or not. They might not even like it. Even if my barista handed me the coffee I ordered and said “you’re welcome” before I thanked them first, I’d think they’re a little off kilter.
  - igetspam 2mo ago
    Sounds like a you problem. If someone did me a service and told me I was welcome, my take would be entirely based on the delivery of the phrase. I don’t even know what to do with the gum analogy because that’s just nonsense.
    - otterley 2mo ago
      I don't think it's just a "me" "problem"; there are many others who agree with my perspective in this discussion. Take a look around.
  - Dylan16807 2mo ago
    Remember that this is a post on their website. They're not pushing it onto anyone. So it's not like the gum. > Even if my barista handed me the coffee I ordered and said “you’re welcome” before I thanked them first, I’d think they’re a little off kilter. Jeez... But also that's a conversation where you can thank them first. That part isn't applicable to a post like this.
hinkley 2mo ago
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- otterley 2mo ago
  We’re talking about basic etiquette here. I don’t have to manufacture it. If the score on my comment (which I know you can’t see but you’ll have to take my word for it) and other comments in this discussion that express similar sentiment are any indication (among them, “arrogant” and “obnoxious”), I’m by no means the only person who feels this way. Try my experiments yourself if you disagree, and come back and let us all know how they went for you.
- antonvs 2mo ago
  Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the common passive-agressive use of "you're welcome" in exactly the kind of context the OP article uses it. But it's a thing, even if you haven't come across it.
  - hinkley 2mo ago
    I am well familiar with passive aggressive. This isn’t how you fight it, is the point. Getting worked up is exactly the goal. Go outside. All of you.
    - samsari 2mo ago
      Are you as familiar with "condescending" as you are with "passive aggressive"?
      - hinkley 2mo ago
        I am not being condescending. I save that for folks who start it. You don’t want to see me being condescending. Well actually you do, as long as it’s not aimed at you and you get popcorn.
    - llm_nerd 2mo ago
      Who is getting worked up? Who is "outraged", or looking to "manufacture" it? I mean, the only person these descriptions apply to in this discussion is you. Google's blog title is weird. Every normal human being that speaks English will find it weird. Maybe the author is on the spectrum, or maybe they thought their humour would carry better in a technical blog. Your agreement with this is not at all our concern. Maybe you should go outside and settle down?

I think it makes the author sound like a dick. Test for yourself: next time you take out the garbage, loudly tell your partner or roommate, “I took out the garbage. You’re welcome.”

Dylan16807 2mo ago

That's a shared chore. Do you not see the obvious differences in the situation? If they said "you're welcome" about an obligation like paying taxes and also made it very personal, then it would be close in feeling to your scenario. But it's not. If you offer a genuine gift, in a situation where there is no expectation of payback or debt, you can say you're welcome.

otterley 2mo ago
It’s impolite and weird to say “you’re welcome” when offering a gift for which the recipient did not first express gratitude. It follows “thank you;” it does not precede it. Try this instead: give a stranger a piece of pre-chewed gum and say “you’re welcome!” Hell, even if it’s not pre-chewed, it’s just presumptuous and rude. You have no idea if they value it or not. They might not even like it. Even if my barista handed me the coffee I ordered and said “you’re welcome” before I thanked them first, I’d think they’re a little off kilter.
- igetspam 2mo ago
  Sounds like a you problem. If someone did me a service and told me I was welcome, my take would be entirely based on the delivery of the phrase. I don’t even know what to do with the gum analogy because that’s just nonsense.
  - otterley 2mo ago
    I don't think it's just a "me" "problem"; there are many others who agree with my perspective in this discussion. Take a look around.
- Dylan16807 2mo ago
  Remember that this is a post on their website. They're not pushing it onto anyone. So it's not like the gum. > Even if my barista handed me the coffee I ordered and said “you’re welcome” before I thanked them first, I’d think they’re a little off kilter. Jeez... But also that's a conversation where you can thank them first. That part isn't applicable to a post like this.

hinkley 2mo ago

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otterley 2mo ago
We’re talking about basic etiquette here. I don’t have to manufacture it. If the score on my comment (which I know you can’t see but you’ll have to take my word for it) and other comments in this discussion that express similar sentiment are any indication (among them, “arrogant” and “obnoxious”), I’m by no means the only person who feels this way. Try my experiments yourself if you disagree, and come back and let us all know how they went for you.
antonvs 2mo ago
Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the common passive-agressive use of "you're welcome" in exactly the kind of context the OP article uses it. But it's a thing, even if you haven't come across it.
- hinkley 2mo ago
  I am well familiar with passive aggressive. This isn’t how you fight it, is the point. Getting worked up is exactly the goal. Go outside. All of you.
  - samsari 2mo ago
    Are you as familiar with "condescending" as you are with "passive aggressive"?
    - hinkley 2mo ago
      I am not being condescending. I save that for folks who start it. You don’t want to see me being condescending. Well actually you do, as long as it’s not aimed at you and you get popcorn.
  - llm_nerd 2mo ago
    Who is getting worked up? Who is "outraged", or looking to "manufacture" it? I mean, the only person these descriptions apply to in this discussion is you. Google's blog title is weird. Every normal human being that speaks English will find it weird. Maybe the author is on the spectrum, or maybe they thought their humour would carry better in a technical blog. Your agreement with this is not at all our concern. Maybe you should go outside and settle down?