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Addiction implies harm. What is the harm in coffee consumption?

• bossyTeacher 2mo ago
  Addiction implies dependence. If you feel unable to be a productive member of society without a psychoactive substance that you must ingest daily, then I have bad news for you.
  • throwaway27448 2mo ago
    There's nothing wrong with dependence! It's the harm that makes it addiction, and coffee in moderation has no harm. (I suppose some people get headaches if they don't drink it, but that certainly doesn't affect me.) Fear of benefitting from psychoactive substances per se on a daily basis sans harm is irrational.
    • bossyTeacher 2mo ago
      > There's nothing wrong with dependence! It's the harm that makes it addiction, and coffee in moderation has no harm No, addiction is an uncontrolled dependence. If you FEEL dependent on a substance to function as an adult and you are UNABLE to control that dependence (can't quit on a whim for let's say 4 months) despite harm, you are addicted. Regular coffee usage gradually stains and erodes your teeth at a minimum. At certain doses, you worse your sleep quality and increase heart rate and blood pressure. The above look like negative effects to me. It is perfectly fine to accept the consequences. The problem is when it's a dependency and you cannot control it. Like doing base jump, it's clearly risky but you can make an informed decision about accepting the risk. If you feel like you NEED to do it and can't stop for lets say 5 months, that's where it gets concerning.