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The only thing not "old" about it is upvoting, which is one of those YMMV features.

marcosdumay 1mo ago
It has the entire web 2.0 neophillia. Discussions stay for a day or so in focus, then they are gone. This one is almost gone already.
- samudrijan 1mo ago
  Were you even here?
  - marcosdumay 1mo ago
    I made my account here in 2011, I don't know how it was before. But I understand the OP was talking about how HN is today.
tomjakubowski 1mo ago
(Score:3, Insightful)
- KPGv2 1mo ago
  I love how great this "takedown" is, but also how it'll only be apparent to people over 35 or so.
  - sodapopcan 1mo ago
    Naw, it's my bad, I'm 45 but never spent any time on Slashdot as I didn't really care about tech at large back then. None of the forums I spent my time on back then had voting systems and now all the ones I use do and I'm not the biggest fan.
onion2k 1mo ago
I have fond memories of Slashdot in 1998. It was the spiritual forerunner to HN, and had upvoting, and in a more complex form as there were categories of votes. I got lots of +5 Funny comments. Hard to imagine, isn't it.
- keyringlight 1mo ago
  I've only seen the ./ category moderation style in one other place and it's really a shame as I think it has great value if it can be linked up with filters besides raw thresholds, of course balanced against how it would be used in reality by a large group of people. Voting incentivizes populism, and that means a lot of topics degrade into "everyone's a comedian" or virtue signalling whatever is acceptable in that particular forum, mostly retreading old ground instead of moving the discussion forwards.
- Shorel 1mo ago
  Same but, I think "funny" killed /. It gradually became a comedy website and at that point I stopped visiting it.
- sodapopcan 1mo ago
  Ya, sorry, I never read Slashdot back in the day (even though I'm well old enough to have had), so I'm very wrong here. I'm just generally annoyed how every forum now a days has it. But of course one of the reasons I dislike it is because I fall victim to its dopamine effects.
  - onion2k 1mo ago
    Upvoted your post. Muhahaha!
Froztnova 1mo ago
I've really soured on votes in recent years. They promised a sort of crowdsourced moderation and I appreciated the cleverness of the idea back around the time reddit first came out. But now I think that downvotes have just kinda become a sort of digital tomato for people to throw, a means of burying a post without putting any thought into an argument as to why the post is illegitimate. And that's the best case. In the worst case it's a really easy system for bots to game. You don't even need AI. All it takes is a bunch of accounts "legitimate" enough to not get flagged by whatever botting heuristics the site implemented and you can produce a false consensus.

It has the entire web 2.0 neophillia. Discussions stay for a day or so in focus, then they are gone. This one is almost gone already.

samudrijan 1mo ago
Were you even here?
- marcosdumay 1mo ago
  I made my account here in 2011, I don't know how it was before. But I understand the OP was talking about how HN is today.

tomjakubowski 1mo ago

(Score:3, Insightful)

KPGv2 1mo ago
I love how great this "takedown" is, but also how it'll only be apparent to people over 35 or so.
- sodapopcan 1mo ago
  Naw, it's my bad, I'm 45 but never spent any time on Slashdot as I didn't really care about tech at large back then. None of the forums I spent my time on back then had voting systems and now all the ones I use do and I'm not the biggest fan.

onion2k 1mo ago

I have fond memories of Slashdot in 1998. It was the spiritual forerunner to HN, and had upvoting, and in a more complex form as there were categories of votes. I got lots of +5 Funny comments. Hard to imagine, isn't it.

keyringlight 1mo ago
I've only seen the ./ category moderation style in one other place and it's really a shame as I think it has great value if it can be linked up with filters besides raw thresholds, of course balanced against how it would be used in reality by a large group of people. Voting incentivizes populism, and that means a lot of topics degrade into "everyone's a comedian" or virtue signalling whatever is acceptable in that particular forum, mostly retreading old ground instead of moving the discussion forwards.
Shorel 1mo ago
Same but, I think "funny" killed /. It gradually became a comedy website and at that point I stopped visiting it.
sodapopcan 1mo ago
Ya, sorry, I never read Slashdot back in the day (even though I'm well old enough to have had), so I'm very wrong here. I'm just generally annoyed how every forum now a days has it. But of course one of the reasons I dislike it is because I fall victim to its dopamine effects.
- onion2k 1mo ago
  Upvoted your post. Muhahaha!

Froztnova 1mo ago

I've really soured on votes in recent years. They promised a sort of crowdsourced moderation and I appreciated the cleverness of the idea back around the time reddit first came out. But now I think that downvotes have just kinda become a sort of digital tomato for people to throw, a means of burying a post without putting any thought into an argument as to why the post is illegitimate. And that's the best case. In the worst case it's a really easy system for bots to game. You don't even need AI. All it takes is a bunch of accounts "legitimate" enough to not get flagged by whatever botting heuristics the site implemented and you can produce a false consensus.