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Local models enable: - watermark-free generation - the stripping of watermarking from the output of SAAS models Any discussion of watermarking is dead in the
by dTal 1mo ago
Local models enable:
- watermark-free generation
- the stripping of watermarking from the output of SAAS models
Any discussion of watermarking is dead in the water in a world where we are permitted to have these things. I fear for the future.
- thisoneworks 1mo agoChill my dude. This is just a sane default which will catch normies copy pasting stuff from claude and chatgpt. It's good enough.
- dTal 1mo agoDo you not want "normies" to have local AI? Do you believe that your ability to use esoteric software makes you special, makes you immune to law? The days where you can find refuge in running "weird hacker crap" instead of 100% goobermint approved software are numbered because news flash: AI means there are no normies anymore. Anyone can do anything. No, I will not chill. The war on general purpose computing is gonna get real hot real soon.
- bethekidyouwant 1mo agoPasting it where?
- queenkjuul 1mo agoHomework assignments, spam emails, LinkedIn
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- bethekidyouwant 1mo agothe api to detect if text is AI generated will be for large bespoke companies, governments etc. not teachers or the general public,
- queenkjuul 1mo agoUniversities are functionally large companies
- bethekidyouwant 1mo agoOh so you already knew that? If they give it to every teacher it’s the same as giving it to everyone so they’re not going to do that.
- queenkjuul 1mo agoAnd giving it to employees of a large company is materially different in what way?
- dpoloncsak 1mo agoLocal models also enable: - not being locked into a provider - not being forced to have your prompts saved by a possible competitor - an alternative to the duolopy we quickly see forming - offline access I fear for the future without local models, much more than the future with them, and would rather everyone had access to a local model than be certain we catch everyone copy+pasting LLM responses. Watermarking would be cool, but it's not worth losing local for.
- dTal 1mo agoTo be clear, we agree. The problem is that unless local AIs become "normie friendly" real damn quick, we're gonna lose em, because they're damned inconvenient to power. That is what I fear.
- dpoloncsak 1mo agoMy apologies, I misunderstood your original comment to mean "We shouldn't have local models if it breaks watermarking" but yes, I think we're on the same page now
- bethekidyouwant 1mo agoI don’t get how you’re gonna lose them how is a guy from Brussels gonna come to your house and turn off your computer?
- dTal 1mo agoIn the short term, governments can suppress free distribution of open weight LLMs. For instance, they could "ask" Hugginface to require an account with a university affiliated email address to download anything. It won't stop you outright, but it will force it underground, slowing everything to a crawl. In the long run... well, general purpose computing is under threat anyway. Platforms with locked bootloaders and mandatory digital signatures outnumber those that don't. Even on "PCs", the openness is merely a cultural norm observed for a particular market segment[0] by Apple and Microsoft - for they are the only ones with true root keys. Even a brand new motherboard comes with Microsoft signing keys pre-flashed, and you are permitted to enroll your own only by grace. The technical infrastructure to flip a switch and lock it all down is now in place, ready to go at the stroke of a pen. Will you be able to get Llama.cpp from "the app store"? I hazard not. If you think this sounds hyperbolic, look at what is happening to Android. [0] They don't even segment it the same! Apple segments by "does it have a keyboard", and Microsoft segments it by "does it have a native x86 processor". Apple runs different software on the same basic hardware, Microsoft runs the same basic software on different hardware, but both have created artificially restricted second class computing categories.
- nradov 1mo agoNo need to fear, the future looks bright!
- graemep 1mo agoVery few people will use local models. In practical terms most people use a few big providers.
- dTal 1mo agoIs that a desirable state of affairs?