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Right, but, nobody uses it. So what's the point for Google?

gkhartman 2mo ago
Is that true though? I'm reading HN on an app built using Flutter. I had no idea until recently, so I would assume more apps could use it without my knowledge. I understand it's limitations vs native apps, but there's quite a few cases where it really doesn't matter. The biggest one for me is always the fear it will be abandoned. Pretty much goes for any cross platform app framework though.
monocasa 2mo ago
Google AdSense uses it.
vips7L 2mo ago
The creator of flutter was on here saying that 1/3 of all apps on the App Store use it. That seems to be a lot more than “nobody”.
- owebmaster 2mo ago
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  - vips7L 2mo ago
    How do you know? Why are we inclined to believe you over him?
    - satvikpendem 2mo ago
      It's simple, it disagrees with their preconceived notions so obviously we're wrong and they're right.
doodlesdev 2mo ago
I've made a huge critic towards Flutter in another comment of mine, but adoption isn't it: the biggest bank in Brazil, with 135 million clients, is a digital bank whose sole interface is their Flutter app. They are different regarding tech choices (they use Clojure on the backend too), but I think it's a huge testament of how far along Flutter adoption has come. Also, Google dogfoods it quite a bit.
- Cyph0n 2mo ago
  Interesting, so Nubank is a heavy Flutter user?
  - wiseowise 2mo ago
    https://building.nubank.com/scaling-with-flutter/ https://building.nubank.com/scaling-with-flutter/ https://flutter.dev/showcase/nubank https://flutter.dev/showcase/nubank
- owebmaster 2mo ago
  Nubank also uses clojure and adoption is still a big issue.
  - filleduchaos 2mo ago
    Third-party analysis (https://appfigures.com/top-sdks/development/all https://appfigures.com/top-sdks/development/all) has Flutter used in 16% of iOS apps and 24% of Android apps (free) Archive link: https://archive.is/IIUaj https://archive.is/IIUaj I really don't understand how/why people deny reality so hard when it comes to Flutter. Reminds me a bit of years ago when people were still scoffing at the idea of anyone actually adopting JavaScript to write web servers with while Node.js was very obviously eating up the market.
    - pjmlp 2mo ago
      It eats the market indeed, and also presents business opportunities for folks like myself, jumping in writing C++ addons, or completely replacing it with Java, .NET, Go, Rust,....
Barrin92 2mo ago
>but, nobody uses it. I used to work at ByteDance and they alone employed I think more than 800 Flutter Devs. Douyin uses Flutter (the Chinese version of TikTok), Grab and Ebay use it, Alibaba and Baidu did too. Toyota and Volkswagen I think both use Flutter. Nubank I think is also a flutter app and they alone have like one hundred million some users. With the popularity in the Chinese ecosystem alone there's gotta be a billion plus people using flutter.
davidkuennen 2mo ago
Been using it for six years with fairly high success: https://stockevents.app https://stockevents.app
- liquid153 2mo ago
  That’s awesome how has the experience been between shipping for both iOS and Android. Gonna check out the app
  - davidkuennen 2mo ago
    Thank you! It's been an excellent experience over the years really. Always easy to ship and always easy to keep up with flutter improvements which have come consistently.
    - liquid153 2mo ago
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Is that true though? I'm reading HN on an app built using Flutter. I had no idea until recently, so I would assume more apps could use it without my knowledge. I understand it's limitations vs native apps, but there's quite a few cases where it really doesn't matter. The biggest one for me is always the fear it will be abandoned. Pretty much goes for any cross platform app framework though.

monocasa 2mo ago

Google AdSense uses it.

vips7L 2mo ago

The creator of flutter was on here saying that 1/3 of all apps on the App Store use it. That seems to be a lot more than “nobody”.

owebmaster 2mo ago
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- vips7L 2mo ago
  How do you know? Why are we inclined to believe you over him?
  - satvikpendem 2mo ago
    It's simple, it disagrees with their preconceived notions so obviously we're wrong and they're right.

doodlesdev 2mo ago

I've made a huge critic towards Flutter in another comment of mine, but adoption isn't it: the biggest bank in Brazil, with 135 million clients, is a digital bank whose sole interface is their Flutter app. They are different regarding tech choices (they use Clojure on the backend too), but I think it's a huge testament of how far along Flutter adoption has come. Also, Google dogfoods it quite a bit.

Cyph0n 2mo ago
Interesting, so Nubank is a heavy Flutter user?
- wiseowise 2mo ago
  https://building.nubank.com/scaling-with-flutter/ https://building.nubank.com/scaling-with-flutter/ https://flutter.dev/showcase/nubank https://flutter.dev/showcase/nubank
owebmaster 2mo ago
Nubank also uses clojure and adoption is still a big issue.
- filleduchaos 2mo ago
  Third-party analysis (https://appfigures.com/top-sdks/development/all https://appfigures.com/top-sdks/development/all) has Flutter used in 16% of iOS apps and 24% of Android apps (free) Archive link: https://archive.is/IIUaj https://archive.is/IIUaj I really don't understand how/why people deny reality so hard when it comes to Flutter. Reminds me a bit of years ago when people were still scoffing at the idea of anyone actually adopting JavaScript to write web servers with while Node.js was very obviously eating up the market.
  - pjmlp 2mo ago
    It eats the market indeed, and also presents business opportunities for folks like myself, jumping in writing C++ addons, or completely replacing it with Java, .NET, Go, Rust,....

Barrin92 2mo ago

>but, nobody uses it. I used to work at ByteDance and they alone employed I think more than 800 Flutter Devs. Douyin uses Flutter (the Chinese version of TikTok), Grab and Ebay use it, Alibaba and Baidu did too. Toyota and Volkswagen I think both use Flutter. Nubank I think is also a flutter app and they alone have like one hundred million some users. With the popularity in the Chinese ecosystem alone there's gotta be a billion plus people using flutter.

davidkuennen 2mo ago

Been using it for six years with fairly high success: https://stockevents.app https://stockevents.app

liquid153 2mo ago
That’s awesome how has the experience been between shipping for both iOS and Android. Gonna check out the app
- davidkuennen 2mo ago
  Thank you! It's been an excellent experience over the years really. Always easy to ship and always easy to keep up with flutter improvements which have come consistently.
  - liquid153 2mo ago
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