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One day I hope for a future innovation that brings back 3.5MM jacks and I can have audio as convenient as it was in the 1950s, but until then my bluetooth can c

by lurght 2mo ago

One day I hope for a future innovation that brings back 3.5MM jacks and I can have audio as convenient as it was in the 1950s, but until then my bluetooth can connect to my speakers while I'm not in the same building and switch device automatically with no setting to change it and with no warning deafen the people in my house, where the only way to switch back requires a mere 20 screen taps (which i can partly blame graphene os for, not their fault i can use a wire though) Maybe I take this a little too close to heart.

sieabahlpark 2mo ago
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thegrim33 2mo ago
Just vote with your wallet and don't buy phones without a headphone jack. That's what I do, and I've always had a phone with one.
- LoganDark 2mo ago
  There is literally no way this can ever result in any impact on the market. Literally no one will ever be able to tell how many sales are made or lost because of whether or not there is a headphone jack. Therefore it is also impossible for it to influence anybody's future decision. This is also my problem with people saying you can vote with your wallet about laptops. No company will ever be able to figure out which features someone bought the laptop for, or which choices caused others to pass it up. Therefore it is impossible for your (or anybody's) wallet to show companies what you want. This also means it is impossible to vote about software. Or really anything that has multiple features. You can't vote about cars this way. You can't vote about houses this way. You can't vote about fast food this way. You can't vote about online shopping this way. You either buy all of something or you buy none of it. You can't buy into the parts you want while leaving out the parts you don't want. You incentivize the full package, or you don't, and lost sales are invisible and inscrutable.
  - em3rgent0rdr 2mo ago
    Similar things could be said for voting itself.
    - LoganDark 2mo ago
      Absolutely, you can often only really hope for the less overall bad option
- ThunderSizzle 2mo ago
  Welcome to the world of trade offs. I also want a half decent camera. When I switched from. a Google Pixel to a Samsung s20+ to keep a headphone jack, the camera got worse, even though the pixel was at least half a decade old. I can't trust Samsung again after that. So much marketing claiming how good their cameras are, but the Pixel and iPhone both blew it out of the water.
- a96 2mo ago
  Nothing that runs GrapheneOS comes with a jack AFAIK, so that didn't work out. Have to use a different device for anything involving headphones.
frollogaston 2mo ago
I only take phone calls on speaker mode and don't listen to music on my phone anymore, it's that bad. I'll bring the dongle for an airplane, and even that is glitchy.
ThePowerOfFuet 2mo ago
Plug a USB-C-to-3.5-mm adapter into the end of the audio cable. Plug it into your phone. Done. You can even keep the connector on the end of the audio cable permanently.
- em3rgent0rdr 2mo ago
  you can also buy a "USB C to 3.5mm audio cable".
  - hypercube33 2mo ago
    USB-C is far easier to break than rca plugs in my experience and then you lose data and rapid charging or charging completely if the phone doesn't do wireless. Until phones get repairable like the current generation of laptops where you pop the port out and can replace it we aren't in a great spot.
- hurfdurf 2mo ago
  If Google ever fixed Android/AOSP to fully support Apple's adapter for complete volume control, that would be swell. https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/242221770?pli=1 https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/242221770?pli=1 After Google discontinued their own adapter, Apple's might be the next best alternative. But not with that issue unfixed.
  - blakes 2mo ago
    fiy, the Apple adapter does seem to work fine now on Android 17 on Pixel phones.
- chocochunks 2mo ago
  It's annoying. Especially if you use those headphones on another device that has 3.5mm headphone jack and no easily accessible free USB C port. And if you need to charge and use headphones...
wkjagt 2mo ago
When I come home in my car, sometimes my daughter's phone (who's already at home) will connect to my car, and her music will stop in her headphones, and I get K-Pop. What a time to be alive.
- garciasn 2mo ago
  Better than having your teen’s porn viewing come through the speakers. That was a fun conversation.
piltdownman 2mo ago
USB-C to 3.5mm adapter is about $5 tbf. The rest is just poor configuration on your part.
- smokey5000 2mo ago
  'You're holding it wrong' Why shame a customer because they have a preference ?
  - piltdownman 2mo ago
    Their preference is for 'audio as convenient as it was in the 1950s', but they instead go on to describe a basic configuration issue with their use-case. The reality of consumer audio in 1950s was closer to a physics lab than a residential convenience. The expectation for the end user was an understanding of impedence and ohms in order to pair up an amplifier with passive speakers, terminating bare copper wire with Spade/Pin Connectors or Binding Posts to connect same, dealing with phase cancellation and ground loop issues, maintaining and operating valve based equipment... and that's before we even get into the vagaries of the cartridge, stylus and associated maintenance for a record player and its media. For reference, Vinyl only replaced Shellac records in the early 1950s - with the very first 12-inch 33⅓ RPM vinyl record released in 1948, and the first 45 in 1949. Similarly, it wasn't until the early 1960s that transistor based playback units superseded valve based. Thus I wholly refute the claim that the OP would manage in a 'convenient' way when compared with a contemporary audio enthusiast, and that even with experience they would struggle to match the dynamic range and fidelity of a mono AM Radio with a significantly larger degree of hassle. ...or they could just buy a $5 adapter.

by lurght 2mo ago

sieabahlpark 2mo ago

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thegrim33 2mo ago

Just vote with your wallet and don't buy phones without a headphone jack. That's what I do, and I've always had a phone with one.

LoganDark 2mo ago
There is literally no way this can ever result in any impact on the market. Literally no one will ever be able to tell how many sales are made or lost because of whether or not there is a headphone jack. Therefore it is also impossible for it to influence anybody's future decision. This is also my problem with people saying you can vote with your wallet about laptops. No company will ever be able to figure out which features someone bought the laptop for, or which choices caused others to pass it up. Therefore it is impossible for your (or anybody's) wallet to show companies what you want. This also means it is impossible to vote about software. Or really anything that has multiple features. You can't vote about cars this way. You can't vote about houses this way. You can't vote about fast food this way. You can't vote about online shopping this way. You either buy all of something or you buy none of it. You can't buy into the parts you want while leaving out the parts you don't want. You incentivize the full package, or you don't, and lost sales are invisible and inscrutable.
- em3rgent0rdr 2mo ago
  Similar things could be said for voting itself.
  - LoganDark 2mo ago
    Absolutely, you can often only really hope for the less overall bad option
ThunderSizzle 2mo ago
Welcome to the world of trade offs. I also want a half decent camera. When I switched from. a Google Pixel to a Samsung s20+ to keep a headphone jack, the camera got worse, even though the pixel was at least half a decade old. I can't trust Samsung again after that. So much marketing claiming how good their cameras are, but the Pixel and iPhone both blew it out of the water.
a96 2mo ago
Nothing that runs GrapheneOS comes with a jack AFAIK, so that didn't work out. Have to use a different device for anything involving headphones.

frollogaston 2mo ago

I only take phone calls on speaker mode and don't listen to music on my phone anymore, it's that bad. I'll bring the dongle for an airplane, and even that is glitchy.

ThePowerOfFuet 2mo ago

Plug a USB-C-to-3.5-mm adapter into the end of the audio cable. Plug it into your phone. Done. You can even keep the connector on the end of the audio cable permanently.

em3rgent0rdr 2mo ago
you can also buy a "USB C to 3.5mm audio cable".
- hypercube33 2mo ago
  USB-C is far easier to break than rca plugs in my experience and then you lose data and rapid charging or charging completely if the phone doesn't do wireless. Until phones get repairable like the current generation of laptops where you pop the port out and can replace it we aren't in a great spot.
hurfdurf 2mo ago
If Google ever fixed Android/AOSP to fully support Apple's adapter for complete volume control, that would be swell. https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/242221770?pli=1 https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/242221770?pli=1 After Google discontinued their own adapter, Apple's might be the next best alternative. But not with that issue unfixed.
- blakes 2mo ago
  fiy, the Apple adapter does seem to work fine now on Android 17 on Pixel phones.
chocochunks 2mo ago
It's annoying. Especially if you use those headphones on another device that has 3.5mm headphone jack and no easily accessible free USB C port. And if you need to charge and use headphones...

wkjagt 2mo ago

When I come home in my car, sometimes my daughter's phone (who's already at home) will connect to my car, and her music will stop in her headphones, and I get K-Pop. What a time to be alive.

garciasn 2mo ago
Better than having your teen’s porn viewing come through the speakers. That was a fun conversation.

piltdownman 2mo ago

USB-C to 3.5mm adapter is about $5 tbf. The rest is just poor configuration on your part.

smokey5000 2mo ago
'You're holding it wrong' Why shame a customer because they have a preference ?
- piltdownman 2mo ago
  Their preference is for 'audio as convenient as it was in the 1950s', but they instead go on to describe a basic configuration issue with their use-case. The reality of consumer audio in 1950s was closer to a physics lab than a residential convenience. The expectation for the end user was an understanding of impedence and ohms in order to pair up an amplifier with passive speakers, terminating bare copper wire with Spade/Pin Connectors or Binding Posts to connect same, dealing with phase cancellation and ground loop issues, maintaining and operating valve based equipment... and that's before we even get into the vagaries of the cartridge, stylus and associated maintenance for a record player and its media. For reference, Vinyl only replaced Shellac records in the early 1950s - with the very first 12-inch 33⅓ RPM vinyl record released in 1948, and the first 45 in 1949. Similarly, it wasn't until the early 1960s that transistor based playback units superseded valve based. Thus I wholly refute the claim that the OP would manage in a 'convenient' way when compared with a contemporary audio enthusiast, and that even with experience they would struggle to match the dynamic range and fidelity of a mono AM Radio with a significantly larger degree of hassle. ...or they could just buy a $5 adapter.