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Give it a couple decades. Most 'vegans' stop being vegan well before that. I'll let you Google why they do.

by firebot 2mo ago

pastage 2mo ago
I am not vegan, will never be, but I have known vegans for more than two decades and they are doing fine. We need to make it easy to make the right choice about food, and one way to do that is to stop making meat meat meat the ONLY cool thing. I am fine with vegans serving me tasty food, they make alternatives easier. If you do not want to be a full time vegan just switch to 3 out 7 days of the week or something like that.
PxldLtd 2mo ago
I gather this is a vague snarky comment loosely implying that vegans don't get enough B12. If so, it's a profoundly ignorant point that shows you don't have any knowledge of a typical vegan diet nowadays.
- expedited123 2mo ago
  Yep, B12 is a solved issue. It's pretty cheap to supplement. I do want to mention that you do also have to look out to get enough of : Omega 3, Calcium, Iodine, Iron, Selenium, Protein. Takes a bit of work at the start to adapt but it's very doable, and it's not like Omnivores don't have comparable deficiencies from not eating enough plants and fruit. Not to mention other problems that come with eating animal products... I only supplement with Omega 3, Vitamin D, B12, Iodine (although sometimes I go for wakame). Have been on a plant-based diet for around 4 years now, feeling healthy.
  - orwin 2mo ago
    I know people who only eat chicken and beef, I'm pretty sure they need iodine way than you do. I don't have the issue, the main animal I eat (besides eggs and cheese) is fish, but I would bet you are healthier than a large part of omnivores.
- firebot 2mo ago
  Reduction to absurdity. Vegans generally have broad deficiencies in key macro and micro nutrients. EPA and DHA, long chain essential omega-3s. You need to eat some fatty fish for this. Algae oil is not the same. You don't get to enjoy the marrow the collagen the joints full of glucosamine and chondroitin but you can buy supplements for all that. Are supplements as good as getting it from a healthy food source? Absolutely not. I think you can play God with your body and see how that fucking around will guarantee you're going to find out.
  - aziaziazi 2mo ago
    > Algae oil is not the same Algae oil is the source of fish oil. Eat want you want, but don't be mad some fellows fetch their nutrients from the raw source instead of multi-staged passage within various other animals. > [EPA and DHA] are originally synthesized by microalgae at the base of the marine food chain, not by the fish. As microalgae move up the food chain, fish acquire the omega-3s and accumulate them in their tissues [note from me: along nasty substances] https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Omega3FattyAcids-HealthProfessional/ https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Omega3FattyAcids-HealthPro...
softwaredoug 2mo ago
A couple of decades of not eating meat is a pretty significant improvement on you your carbon impact :)
- 0x000xca0xfe 2mo ago
  Same for heavy chain smokers, motorcyclists, obese people and drug users. They are helping our climate a lot by voluntarily shortening their life /s
e40 2mo ago
I know a vegan who’s been doing it for 45 years. That I know of.

Give it a couple decades. Most 'vegans' stop being vegan well before that. I'll let you Google why they do.

by firebot 2mo ago

Give it a couple decades. Most 'vegans' stop being vegan well before that. I'll let you Google why they do.

I am not vegan, will never be, but I have known vegans for more than two decades and they are doing fine. We need to make it easy to make the right choice about food, and one way to do that is to stop making meat meat meat the ONLY cool thing. I am fine with vegans serving me tasty food, they make alternatives easier. If you do not want to be a full time vegan just switch to 3 out 7 days of the week or something like that.

PxldLtd 2mo ago

I gather this is a vague snarky comment loosely implying that vegans don't get enough B12. If so, it's a profoundly ignorant point that shows you don't have any knowledge of a typical vegan diet nowadays.

expedited123 2mo ago
Yep, B12 is a solved issue. It's pretty cheap to supplement. I do want to mention that you do also have to look out to get enough of : Omega 3, Calcium, Iodine, Iron, Selenium, Protein. Takes a bit of work at the start to adapt but it's very doable, and it's not like Omnivores don't have comparable deficiencies from not eating enough plants and fruit. Not to mention other problems that come with eating animal products... I only supplement with Omega 3, Vitamin D, B12, Iodine (although sometimes I go for wakame). Have been on a plant-based diet for around 4 years now, feeling healthy.
- orwin 2mo ago
  I know people who only eat chicken and beef, I'm pretty sure they need iodine way than you do. I don't have the issue, the main animal I eat (besides eggs and cheese) is fish, but I would bet you are healthier than a large part of omnivores.
firebot 2mo ago
Reduction to absurdity. Vegans generally have broad deficiencies in key macro and micro nutrients. EPA and DHA, long chain essential omega-3s. You need to eat some fatty fish for this. Algae oil is not the same. You don't get to enjoy the marrow the collagen the joints full of glucosamine and chondroitin but you can buy supplements for all that. Are supplements as good as getting it from a healthy food source? Absolutely not. I think you can play God with your body and see how that fucking around will guarantee you're going to find out.
- aziaziazi 2mo ago
  > Algae oil is not the same Algae oil is the source of fish oil. Eat want you want, but don't be mad some fellows fetch their nutrients from the raw source instead of multi-staged passage within various other animals. > [EPA and DHA] are originally synthesized by microalgae at the base of the marine food chain, not by the fish. As microalgae move up the food chain, fish acquire the omega-3s and accumulate them in their tissues [note from me: along nasty substances] https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Omega3FattyAcids-HealthProfessional/ https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Omega3FattyAcids-HealthPro...

softwaredoug 2mo ago

A couple of decades of not eating meat is a pretty significant improvement on you your carbon impact :)

0x000xca0xfe 2mo ago
Same for heavy chain smokers, motorcyclists, obese people and drug users. They are helping our climate a lot by voluntarily shortening their life /s

e40 2mo ago

I know a vegan who’s been doing it for 45 years. That I know of.