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You know what's also good at storytelling? AI. Or else we wouldn't have writing awards being revoked when it comes out it was written by AI. I wouldn't say we

by avaer 2mo ago

You know what's also good at storytelling? AI. Or else we wouldn't have writing awards being revoked when it comes out it was written by AI. I wouldn't say we don't need artists or writers, but I think most people will be surprised how quickly fully AI driven pipelines will advance here.

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binary0010 2mo ago
I'd actually be curious to read an award winning ai book, all the ai books/interactive story generators I've tried have been... Ok at best... Do you know what novels have been written by ai and award winning?
- avaer 2mo ago
  Japanese isekai might not be your cup of tea, but one example is [1] which was way back in Jan, and models have improved a lot since then. My sneaking suspicion is that there are a lot more cases than get reported, because authors are disincentivized to disclose AI usage, and readers by and large feel icky about reading AI work for reasons unrelated to quality. I can totally see a weird future where a lot of what people like is AI generated, and everyone lies to each other about it. So it's hard to do research on this phenomenon. [1] https://0115765.com/archives/165655 https://0115765.com/archives/165655
  - hattmall 2mo ago
    Not completely surprising that AI could do well generating manga. It's very formulaic in general and by nature devoid of a lot of the relatable character development from most other writing. I have no problem reading an AI story if it's done well, but it typically just isn't. What I find annoying though is AI generated content that is only interesting if it's actually real. Like a historic photo or a video of some shocking event.
    - ido 2mo ago
      I’d be ok reading AI-written stories if it’s only “AI assisted” (I.e. there’s a skilled human driving it). If it’s just a prompt and then the AI does all the writing, I know there’s just no intention behind it as LLMs don’t actually “think”- they just (in a very sophisticated way) pattern-match against an existing corpus. I’ve experimented using AI to prototype game ideas and inevitably once I succumb to the temptation of handing the AI the game design reigns it starts devolving to meaningless slop with a silhouette of a meaningful design. The only way to get something meaningful (that ive found) is for the human to stay in the driver’s seat.
  - binary0010 2mo ago
    So a website AlphoPolis, awarded a cheap online romance manga some sort of award because it got a lot of likes on social media? My Unassuming Skill, 'Tidying Up,' is the Strongest! ~A Corporate Slave Office Lady Accidentally Reforms a Country in Another World, and Now She's Doted on by the Knight Commander and His Majesty the Emperor!?~" I guess I thought you were talking about real awards for great literature not webtoon style romance manga slop.
cautiouscat 2mo ago
What award/book was this?
- FeteCommuniste 2mo ago
  The winner of a short-story prize from Granta (well known literary fiction publisher) is believed to be AI-written: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/jun/20/granta-magazine-commonwealth-short-story-prize-ai https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/jun/20/granta-magazin...
  - cautiouscat 2mo ago
    So the author didn’t claim it was? It’s just assumed?
  - Forgeties79 2mo ago
    1 unverified example with quite the unique, if true, circumstances against the undoubtedly countless dismissed attempts (not to mention those never submitted because they’re trash) hardly meets the bar being established here.
    - letmevoteplease 2mo ago
      Even if 99% of generations are trash, why does that matter? Just throw out the failures and keep the good ones, like any writer. Here is the text of the winning story: https://granta.com/the-serpent-in-the-grove/ https://granta.com/the-serpent-in-the-grove/ If you've ever used ChatGPT to generate stories, you will find the style unmistakable. It's cloying to me, but it did manage to fool some stuffy literary judges.
      - altmanaltman 2mo ago
        If 99% generations are trash then it means it sucks at storytelling and is not good at it contary to what was claimed in the comment.
Forgeties79 2mo ago
> You know what's also good at storytelling? AI Writing a coherent story =/= good at storytelling
- dd8601fn 2mo ago
  It’s better than most video games. Including some of the best selling.
  - 9dev 2mo ago
    But that isn’t because most game writers are bad at their job, but the vast majority of the target audience don’t really care about a good story - they want to shoot the baddies and be a cool hero. Just look what happened when a studio tries to do a bold move and have a sequel where the protagonist of the first game gets tortured and killed out of revenge, by the daughter of one of the many characters he killed in the first part. This is a direct metaphor involving the player, about grief, revenge, and loss. They were absolutely shredded by the fans over doing this to their favourite serial killer. Gamers by and large don’t want a good story.
    - Forgeties79 2mo ago
      The bar for game writing is very low. Most of them are competent writers but that’s not enough to make a good, memorable story. A lot of games simply do not prioritize the time and budget for quality writing.
  - Forgeties79 2mo ago
    Is that really the bar we’re going for here? Crappy video game writing? That’s the Creative Revolution:tm: AI is bringing us?
altmanaltman 2mo ago
Its a bit like saying AI is good at math when its being used by Terrance Tao. Like okay if its so good at storytelling, use it to generate a good one and share it under this comment for feedback and we can check out how good and original it is.
mawadev 2mo ago
This is a great use of our global water supply

by avaer 2mo ago

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binary0010 2mo ago

I'd actually be curious to read an award winning ai book, all the ai books/interactive story generators I've tried have been... Ok at best... Do you know what novels have been written by ai and award winning?

avaer 2mo ago
Japanese isekai might not be your cup of tea, but one example is [1] which was way back in Jan, and models have improved a lot since then. My sneaking suspicion is that there are a lot more cases than get reported, because authors are disincentivized to disclose AI usage, and readers by and large feel icky about reading AI work for reasons unrelated to quality. I can totally see a weird future where a lot of what people like is AI generated, and everyone lies to each other about it. So it's hard to do research on this phenomenon. [1] https://0115765.com/archives/165655 https://0115765.com/archives/165655
- hattmall 2mo ago
  Not completely surprising that AI could do well generating manga. It's very formulaic in general and by nature devoid of a lot of the relatable character development from most other writing. I have no problem reading an AI story if it's done well, but it typically just isn't. What I find annoying though is AI generated content that is only interesting if it's actually real. Like a historic photo or a video of some shocking event.
  - ido 2mo ago
    I’d be ok reading AI-written stories if it’s only “AI assisted” (I.e. there’s a skilled human driving it). If it’s just a prompt and then the AI does all the writing, I know there’s just no intention behind it as LLMs don’t actually “think”- they just (in a very sophisticated way) pattern-match against an existing corpus. I’ve experimented using AI to prototype game ideas and inevitably once I succumb to the temptation of handing the AI the game design reigns it starts devolving to meaningless slop with a silhouette of a meaningful design. The only way to get something meaningful (that ive found) is for the human to stay in the driver’s seat.
- binary0010 2mo ago
  So a website AlphoPolis, awarded a cheap online romance manga some sort of award because it got a lot of likes on social media? My Unassuming Skill, 'Tidying Up,' is the Strongest! ~A Corporate Slave Office Lady Accidentally Reforms a Country in Another World, and Now She's Doted on by the Knight Commander and His Majesty the Emperor!?~" I guess I thought you were talking about real awards for great literature not webtoon style romance manga slop.

cautiouscat 2mo ago

What award/book was this?

FeteCommuniste 2mo ago
The winner of a short-story prize from Granta (well known literary fiction publisher) is believed to be AI-written: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/jun/20/granta-magazine-commonwealth-short-story-prize-ai https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/jun/20/granta-magazin...
- cautiouscat 2mo ago
  So the author didn’t claim it was? It’s just assumed?
- Forgeties79 2mo ago
  1 unverified example with quite the unique, if true, circumstances against the undoubtedly countless dismissed attempts (not to mention those never submitted because they’re trash) hardly meets the bar being established here.
  - letmevoteplease 2mo ago
    Even if 99% of generations are trash, why does that matter? Just throw out the failures and keep the good ones, like any writer. Here is the text of the winning story: https://granta.com/the-serpent-in-the-grove/ https://granta.com/the-serpent-in-the-grove/ If you've ever used ChatGPT to generate stories, you will find the style unmistakable. It's cloying to me, but it did manage to fool some stuffy literary judges.
    - altmanaltman 2mo ago
      If 99% generations are trash then it means it sucks at storytelling and is not good at it contary to what was claimed in the comment.

Forgeties79 2mo ago

> You know what's also good at storytelling? AI Writing a coherent story =/= good at storytelling

dd8601fn 2mo ago
It’s better than most video games. Including some of the best selling.
- 9dev 2mo ago
  But that isn’t because most game writers are bad at their job, but the vast majority of the target audience don’t really care about a good story - they want to shoot the baddies and be a cool hero. Just look what happened when a studio tries to do a bold move and have a sequel where the protagonist of the first game gets tortured and killed out of revenge, by the daughter of one of the many characters he killed in the first part. This is a direct metaphor involving the player, about grief, revenge, and loss. They were absolutely shredded by the fans over doing this to their favourite serial killer. Gamers by and large don’t want a good story.
  - Forgeties79 2mo ago
    The bar for game writing is very low. Most of them are competent writers but that’s not enough to make a good, memorable story. A lot of games simply do not prioritize the time and budget for quality writing.
- Forgeties79 2mo ago
  Is that really the bar we’re going for here? Crappy video game writing? That’s the Creative Revolution:tm: AI is bringing us?

altmanaltman 2mo ago

Its a bit like saying AI is good at math when its being used by Terrance Tao. Like okay if its so good at storytelling, use it to generate a good one and share it under this comment for feedback and we can check out how good and original it is.

mawadev 2mo ago

This is a great use of our global water supply