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Democracy depends on public education about policy needs, not just electoral fundraising and stupid campaign ads. This video is a brilliant piece of political r

by RGS1811 2mo ago

Democracy depends on public education about policy needs, not just electoral fundraising and stupid campaign ads. This video is a brilliant piece of political rhetoric, because it says “here’s an issue you should care about”, gets a little technical in ways normal people can understand, and then says “hey we want to do something to fix this, please join us in this effort”. It’s upbeat, it’s rational. It’s so good.

figmert 2mo ago
I think if one thing Mamdani is great at, it's that he's a great marketer. His brand is just so much better than any candidate I've seen in the US. Heck even in the UK to be honest.
- gruez 2mo ago
  >I think if one thing Mamdani is great at, it's that he's a great marketer. His brand is just so much better than any candidate You could say the same about Trump, and no, this is not supposed to be a compliment.
  - disgruntledphd2 2mo ago
    > You could say the same about Trump, and no, this is not supposed to be a compliment. That's true, both Mamdani and Trump are very effective politicians. One can disagree with either or both of their positions, but that doesn't mean that they're not good at it.
    - Obscurity4340 2mo ago
      I was gobsmacked when Trump was gushing about Mamdani, must have done a real number on him
      - disgruntledphd2 2mo ago
        Trump is wildly inconsistent, and his policies are mostly (apparently) driven by personality, so it wasn't that much of a surprise to me.
jvanderbot 2mo ago
One issue that I have with many of these videos - what precisely is "this"? What issue is being addressed and what changes are proposed? It's entirely issue-adjacent slogans of "Amazon cheats, we will hurt them". And if I've learned anything from the most recent executive branch campaigns/elections, it's that vaguely defined "we'll get them" will get you elected but won't promise any meaningful changes other than power for the elected.
- runako 2mo ago
  The bill[1], which is named in the video, is available on the public Internet. 1 - https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=7879110&GUID=BDDD32F1-1178-492D-80F2-205845356FD2 https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=7...
  - jvanderbot 2mo ago
    Fair enough! I watched the video again and still dont understand what the problem is or what's being solved, but yes - there's the act! It connects the dots through - Amazon seems to be claiming their drivers are exempt from something due to being contractors, and this bill will enforce those undefined somethings to be enforced. > This bill would require operators of certain warehouses and storage facilities from which goods are delivered to final consumers in the City to obtain a business license from the Department of Consumer and Worker Protection. This bill would set forth the conditions of such license, which would include safety, training and employment requirements. This bill would also set forth enforcement options, including those available to the City and to workers. The bill text itself seems to be more about hiring / firing practices than trucks.
    - pseudalopex 2mo ago
      The video identified injuries and accidents were problems and said Amazon claimed Amazon were exempt from liability. Not drivers were exempt from undefined somethings. Notice of termination was the 1 bill section not connected clearly to a problem in the video. The Delivery worker record-keeping and safety obligations and Worker training sections were about injuries and accidents clearly. The Direct employment section would prevent to transfer liability to contractors.

by RGS1811 2mo ago

figmert 2mo ago

I think if one thing Mamdani is great at, it's that he's a great marketer. His brand is just so much better than any candidate I've seen in the US. Heck even in the UK to be honest.

gruez 2mo ago
>I think if one thing Mamdani is great at, it's that he's a great marketer. His brand is just so much better than any candidate You could say the same about Trump, and no, this is not supposed to be a compliment.
- disgruntledphd2 2mo ago
  > You could say the same about Trump, and no, this is not supposed to be a compliment. That's true, both Mamdani and Trump are very effective politicians. One can disagree with either or both of their positions, but that doesn't mean that they're not good at it.
  - Obscurity4340 2mo ago
    I was gobsmacked when Trump was gushing about Mamdani, must have done a real number on him
    - disgruntledphd2 2mo ago
      Trump is wildly inconsistent, and his policies are mostly (apparently) driven by personality, so it wasn't that much of a surprise to me.

jvanderbot 2mo ago

One issue that I have with many of these videos - what precisely is "this"? What issue is being addressed and what changes are proposed? It's entirely issue-adjacent slogans of "Amazon cheats, we will hurt them". And if I've learned anything from the most recent executive branch campaigns/elections, it's that vaguely defined "we'll get them" will get you elected but won't promise any meaningful changes other than power for the elected.

runako 2mo ago
The bill[1], which is named in the video, is available on the public Internet. 1 - https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=7879110&GUID=BDDD32F1-1178-492D-80F2-205845356FD2 https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=7...
- jvanderbot 2mo ago
  Fair enough! I watched the video again and still dont understand what the problem is or what's being solved, but yes - there's the act! It connects the dots through - Amazon seems to be claiming their drivers are exempt from something due to being contractors, and this bill will enforce those undefined somethings to be enforced. > This bill would require operators of certain warehouses and storage facilities from which goods are delivered to final consumers in the City to obtain a business license from the Department of Consumer and Worker Protection. This bill would set forth the conditions of such license, which would include safety, training and employment requirements. This bill would also set forth enforcement options, including those available to the City and to workers. The bill text itself seems to be more about hiring / firing practices than trucks.
  - pseudalopex 2mo ago
    The video identified injuries and accidents were problems and said Amazon claimed Amazon were exempt from liability. Not drivers were exempt from undefined somethings. Notice of termination was the 1 bill section not connected clearly to a problem in the video. The Delivery worker record-keeping and safety obligations and Worker training sections were about injuries and accidents clearly. The Direct employment section would prevent to transfer liability to contractors.