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They should just replace the spaces by one of Unicode special space characters. Can it be circumvented? Of course. Will most people go through the trouble to c

by amelius 3mo ago

They should just replace the spaces by one of Unicode special space characters. Can it be circumvented? Of course. Will most people go through the trouble to circumvent it? No.

sixtyj 3mo ago
https://unicode-explorer.com/articles/space-characters https://unicode-explorer.com/articles/space-characters U+2800 or U+3164 would be nice. But as I remove unwanted characters with grep before layout in InDesign, someone will make a skill for removing such space characters.
- ack_complete 3mo ago
  We already have one, our Claude setup already requires output to be 7-bit ASCII clean and scans it for such.
A_D_E_P_T 3mo ago
If it's that simple and obvious, you'll have 10 "Remove Claude Watermark" web-apps by the end of Day 1. Most of them coded by Claude. Hell, it'll probably happen no matter how sophisticated their watermark is. There's no watermark in text that can't be detected and removed, and no text that can't be converted to generic keyboard ASCII.
- amelius 3mo ago
  You forgot about the cases where (1) people don't care, (2) people want to say "I used an LLM for this". I'm convinced that those cases happen more often than you think. Why not cover them with a simple mechanism? It's also in the interest of AI companies who don't want to train on AI output.
  - pixl97 2mo ago
    Depends on the pushback in different sets of users. Students for example would clean it up.
    - amelius 2mo ago
      Sure, but let's first find out how many % of people are willing to be frank about their AI usage, and/or don't care about it. My guess is it is worthwhile to do this.
- selcuka 2mo ago
  But the source codes of those web apps will also be watermarked. /s
RataNova 2mo ago
Those invisible spaces get wiped by the first sanitizer in any normal ide. Worse it'll instantly break parsing for configs like yaml where spaces are critical for structure

by amelius 3mo ago

They should just replace the spaces by one of Unicode special space characters. Can it be circumvented? Of course. Will most people go through the trouble to circumvent it? No.

sixtyj 3mo ago

https://unicode-explorer.com/articles/space-characters https://unicode-explorer.com/articles/space-characters U+2800 or U+3164 would be nice. But as I remove unwanted characters with grep before layout in InDesign, someone will make a skill for removing such space characters.

ack_complete 3mo ago
We already have one, our Claude setup already requires output to be 7-bit ASCII clean and scans it for such.

A_D_E_P_T 3mo ago

If it's that simple and obvious, you'll have 10 "Remove Claude Watermark" web-apps by the end of Day 1. Most of them coded by Claude. Hell, it'll probably happen no matter how sophisticated their watermark is. There's no watermark in text that can't be detected and removed, and no text that can't be converted to generic keyboard ASCII.

amelius 3mo ago
You forgot about the cases where (1) people don't care, (2) people want to say "I used an LLM for this". I'm convinced that those cases happen more often than you think. Why not cover them with a simple mechanism? It's also in the interest of AI companies who don't want to train on AI output.
- pixl97 2mo ago
  Depends on the pushback in different sets of users. Students for example would clean it up.
  - amelius 2mo ago
    Sure, but let's first find out how many % of people are willing to be frank about their AI usage, and/or don't care about it. My guess is it is worthwhile to do this.
selcuka 2mo ago
But the source codes of those web apps will also be watermarked. /s

RataNova 2mo ago

Those invisible spaces get wiped by the first sanitizer in any normal ide. Worse it'll instantly break parsing for configs like yaml where spaces are critical for structure