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Silly idea. I would rather have a right to unlock. Make it law that Sony can't prevent alternatives OS installation. Then when you get Arch running on a PS5 yo

Silly idea. I would rather have a right to unlock. Make it law that Sony can't prevent alternatives OS installation. Then when you get Arch running on a PS5 you can install Steam on top

odo1242 2mo ago
This would help but doesn’t solve the problem these people want solved (Sony being able to take away games after purchase and reselling games being impossible because the games are all digital)
hnlmorg 2mo ago
Even when the PS3 supported Linux, Sony didn’t give OtherOS full access to the GPU. So I doubt you’d get any benefit running Steam on a hypothetical Linux-powered PS5.
- 999900000999 2mo ago
  A right to unlock would mean that you get full access to your own hardware. No real reason to buy a Sony system anyway, PC will always win in the long run.
  - hnlmorg 2mo ago
    > A right to unlock would mean that you get full access to your own hardware. That very much depends on the wording of such a law. My point is that you can guarantee that console makers will look for a loophole to cripple their “unlocked” hardware. > No real reason to buy a Sony system anyway, PC will always win in the long run. I’m not the one suggesting people should buy consoles to unlock them
MBCook 2mo ago
That’s dumb. Why should you have to unlock?
- 999900000999 2mo ago
  Because that's the only way Sony doesn't have a monopoly on what software you can run on your hardware. PC gaming lets me shop from Steam, GOG, etc. I can't do any of that on a closed system.
  - MBCook 2mo ago
    No it’s not. Laws are. Why ask that the fire doors in a building are unlocked when it’s on fire? Maybe they just shouldn’t ever be locked.
    - 999900000999 2mo ago
      Ok. Even then you'd only be able to install specific PS5 software. Which no one can build without a license from Sony.
      - MBCook 2mo ago
        You could easily make the law require you have that ability.
aurareturn 2mo ago
Why not buy a PC if you want a fully unlocked hardware platform? You can install Linux on it or whatever is supported. No. What you actually want is a $400 console that sells at a loss or break even and has the graphics power of a $1,500 - $2,000 PC hardware and you want to be able to install anything on it. How the heck does that make any sense financially for Sony? Common sense is often lacking in gaming communities.

Silly idea. I would rather have a right to unlock. Make it law that Sony can't prevent alternatives OS installation. Then when you get Arch running on a PS5 you can install Steam on top

odo1242 2mo ago

This would help but doesn’t solve the problem these people want solved (Sony being able to take away games after purchase and reselling games being impossible because the games are all digital)

hnlmorg 2mo ago

Even when the PS3 supported Linux, Sony didn’t give OtherOS full access to the GPU. So I doubt you’d get any benefit running Steam on a hypothetical Linux-powered PS5.

999900000999 2mo ago
A right to unlock would mean that you get full access to your own hardware. No real reason to buy a Sony system anyway, PC will always win in the long run.
- hnlmorg 2mo ago
  > A right to unlock would mean that you get full access to your own hardware. That very much depends on the wording of such a law. My point is that you can guarantee that console makers will look for a loophole to cripple their “unlocked” hardware. > No real reason to buy a Sony system anyway, PC will always win in the long run. I’m not the one suggesting people should buy consoles to unlock them

MBCook 2mo ago

That’s dumb. Why should you have to unlock?

999900000999 2mo ago
Because that's the only way Sony doesn't have a monopoly on what software you can run on your hardware. PC gaming lets me shop from Steam, GOG, etc. I can't do any of that on a closed system.
- MBCook 2mo ago
  No it’s not. Laws are. Why ask that the fire doors in a building are unlocked when it’s on fire? Maybe they just shouldn’t ever be locked.
  - 999900000999 2mo ago
    Ok. Even then you'd only be able to install specific PS5 software. Which no one can build without a license from Sony.
    - MBCook 2mo ago
      You could easily make the law require you have that ability.

aurareturn 2mo ago

Why not buy a PC if you want a fully unlocked hardware platform? You can install Linux on it or whatever is supported. No. What you actually want is a $400 console that sells at a loss or break even and has the graphics power of a $1,500 - $2,000 PC hardware and you want to be able to install anything on it. How the heck does that make any sense financially for Sony? Common sense is often lacking in gaming communities.