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Meta can never be redeemed, but it's still valid to admit that FB at one point had a very badass engineering culture. They're one of 2 companies I would absolu
by monster_truck 2mo ago
Meta can never be redeemed, but it's still valid to admit that FB at one point had a very badass engineering culture.
They're one of 2 companies I would absolutely never work for (weapons etc aside). FB's recruiters hounded me so often I requested that they blackball me. The day they became Meta, I learned this by checking my email to see that they started trying to reach out again. I once again requested that they blackball me. This by extention taints OAI, the other company I'll never work for.
After a few hours with Glimmer I'm pretty impressed. It's better than the benchmark scores seem to indicate compared to Qwen 3.6 27B. I'm very excited for 3.8
- swiftcoder 2mo ago> FB at one point had a very badass engineering culture Perpetually kneecapped by one of the worst management cultures I've ever seen
- MengerSponge 2mo agoWould you say those badass engineers were/are managed by Careless People?
- swiftcoder 2mo agoMy impression is that they had created a system where management cared very deeply about "number go up", and very little about "which number?"
- MengerSponge 2mo agoThe book title is a reference to The Great Gatsby: "They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.” ― F. Scott Fitzgerald
- fidotron 2mo agoI'm going there: Bosworth is the problem. He should never have got near being CTO.
- LorenDB 2mo agoWhat is the other company that you would never work for?
- zImPatrick 2mo agoHe said OpenAI in the comment (if I read it correctly)
- LorenDB 2mo agoAh, my bad. Thanks for pointing that out :)
- bko 2mo agoMeta doesn't need to be "redeemed". They have two of the most popular social media apps in the world. And theyll prob survive without ever having you work there
- JKCalhoun 2mo agoI read that as, "Meta is a piece of shit but they're rich and don't care." (Which I guess I agree with.)
- bko 2mo agoShould have clarified. I meant my comment to be read as [random online person] is not particularly valuable and his comment gasing himself up as a high value meta acquisiton is polluting online discourse. Tech equivalent of "I wouldn't date Sydney Sweeney, I'm not into blondes". Cool story bro
- gosub100 2mo agoMind telling me roughly what you had on your resume that had meta /fb hounding you for a job? ( Of course so I can avoid having this situation happen to me, naturally)
- monster_truck 2mo agoSimply don't get flown out by IG to be their first mobile dev.
- aruggirello 2mo ago> It's better than the benchmark scores seem to indicate compared to Qwen 3.6 27B. I'm very excited for 3.8 Is it worth considering if it's only marginally better than Qwen 3.6 though? Qwen 3.8 27B is almost there, and will probably be better suited as drop-in replacement for 3.6. Not even considering there's probably going to be a 3.8-35B-A3B too - which will have even better performance.
- monster_truck 2mo agoIt takes 10 minutes to download and try, any model is worth at least that. In my experience benchmarks are generally dogshit
- petu 2mo agoQwen3.6 is very token inefficient with it's thinking. Quantized versions often get into loops. Glimmer is trained with 4 effort levels, not just thinking on/off. Maybe it's more token efficient in general. There's official 4 bit quantizations with reported 1% loss across 15 benchmarks -- so quants probably work good. IMO that alone is worth trying for, even if they're otherwise equal.
- fidotron 2mo agoFB/Meta have had "don't recruit me" databases for a long time that are very easy to get yourself added to, thankfully.