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One interpretation is that so called profitability is one 15 minute phone call between OpenAI and Anthropic to increase prices. If you think that antitrust is t

One interpretation is that so called profitability is one 15 minute phone call between OpenAI and Anthropic to increase prices. If you think that antitrust is the reason that this won't happen, you've stated a speculation. Not a certainty.

bvghnnxeyjbx 2mo ago
there isn't enough demand to raise prices. OpenAI announced price CUTS recently and they are hilariously unprofitable already. Why would they be cutting prices if they have the ability to raise them? outside of this website and the ownership class everyone hates AI
- Ekaros 2mo ago
  And I am not even sure ownership class have any real understanding or opinion on AI. Just that it has been sold to them as something that will save wages and make money... If it does not or the narrative turns they will abandon it like any other idea they have been sold.
dgellow 2mo ago
They are pressured by open models to reduce prices, not increase
- doctorpangloss 2mo ago
  Why do people continue to use them despite the existence of so many open weights models? This is "priced in." Short of stealing the checkpoints straight from the servers, it's unlikely to change.
  - WhrRTheBaboons 2mo ago
    >Why do people continue to use them despite the existence of so many open weights models? Because of the low prices lol.
  - dgellow 2mo ago
    I think it’s mostly a marketing, branding thing. Most people haven’t heard of the Chinese AI companies and models, but everybody heard of OpenAI and Anthropic. The US companies have sales team, a constant media presence. It’s just a question of time for open models to gain market shares. Just look at how OpenAI has lost market share over the past year
    - jryle70 2mo ago
      Anyone who remotely pays attention to AI would know who DeepSeek is, given the shockwave it sent in early 2025, impacting the tech stocks. News was full of "Kimi moment" recently too.
      - dgellow 2mo ago
        Sure but a few weeks of coverage is nothing compared to OpenAI and Anthropic. Claude and ChatGPT are household names you can mention to your parents, it’s not the case (yet) for the Chinese models

bvghnnxeyjbx 2mo ago

there isn't enough demand to raise prices. OpenAI announced price CUTS recently and they are hilariously unprofitable already. Why would they be cutting prices if they have the ability to raise them? outside of this website and the ownership class everyone hates AI

Ekaros 2mo ago
And I am not even sure ownership class have any real understanding or opinion on AI. Just that it has been sold to them as something that will save wages and make money... If it does not or the narrative turns they will abandon it like any other idea they have been sold.

dgellow 2mo ago

They are pressured by open models to reduce prices, not increase

doctorpangloss 2mo ago
Why do people continue to use them despite the existence of so many open weights models? This is "priced in." Short of stealing the checkpoints straight from the servers, it's unlikely to change.
- WhrRTheBaboons 2mo ago
  >Why do people continue to use them despite the existence of so many open weights models? Because of the low prices lol.
- dgellow 2mo ago
  I think it’s mostly a marketing, branding thing. Most people haven’t heard of the Chinese AI companies and models, but everybody heard of OpenAI and Anthropic. The US companies have sales team, a constant media presence. It’s just a question of time for open models to gain market shares. Just look at how OpenAI has lost market share over the past year
  - jryle70 2mo ago
    Anyone who remotely pays attention to AI would know who DeepSeek is, given the shockwave it sent in early 2025, impacting the tech stocks. News was full of "Kimi moment" recently too.
    - dgellow 2mo ago
      Sure but a few weeks of coverage is nothing compared to OpenAI and Anthropic. Claude and ChatGPT are household names you can mention to your parents, it’s not the case (yet) for the Chinese models