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That's interesting. I had originally posted a "this dude is classy" comment, and may repost, but I'd like to find out more, beforehand. Are there any links to

That's interesting. I had originally posted a "this dude is classy" comment, and may repost, but I'd like to find out more, beforehand. Are there any links to this stuff that you can share? [UPDATED] Ah. I see this post has it[0]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49231394 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49231394

user43928 3mo ago
I did not look into the details myself, but here are the links to the previous post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49228166 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49228166
- ChrisMarshallNY 3mo ago
  I know that not everyone is thrilled with Gruber, but I think this is classy (from his article): > To the best of my recollection, this is the first post I’ve retracted in the 24 years I’ve been writing Daring Fireball. I hope it’s the last. I was misled, both overtly and through omissions, in several ways, but what I publish is my responsibility, and I apologize for the error.
  - sersi 3mo ago
    Gruner is a true fan and tends to be overly positive about Apple but I don't doubt his integrity for a second. In cases when his reporting is overly favorable to Apple in my eyes, I do believe that he truly believes what he says.
    - whstl 3mo ago
      It was interesting that his first retraction was due to a post being critical of Apple. Not that there hasn't been other critical posts, but he's very positive about the brand.
      - maratc 3mo ago
        Gruber himself has written a number of posts critical of Apple, some of them scathingly so.
        ChrisMarshallNY 3mo ago
        Anyone that has been in the Apple ecosystem, for any length of time, has been insanely pissed off at them -usually, multiple times. They are a pretty arrogant megacorp, and tend to make decisions that primarily benefit themselves. But I generally have a positive relationship with them.
        simonw 3mo ago
        Yeah, any time I see someone accuse Gruber of being universally positive about Apple I think they can't have been reading his work very often. Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino: https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/something_is_rotten_in_the_state_of_cupertino https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/something_is_rotten_in_th... Apple subsequently stopped providing Apple execs for his annual live podcast recording at WWDC. They don't confirm it was because of that piece (unsurprisingly) but it seems very likely it was.
        toasterlovin 2mo ago
        I came across a theory which seems more likely to me: Gruber lost access to Apple execs after he posted the following regarding Tim Cook and other tech CEOs congratulating Trump on winning the election in 2024: “I wonder how much Cook dithered over that cheerful-looking exclamation mark. I hope he regrets it. … I wonder how much it stings to be reminded that all the money in the world cannot buy dignity. I wonder too, what taste Cheetos-dusted 78-year-old testicles leave in one’s mouth. Whatever the flavor, I hope it lingers.” From the very end of this: https://daringfireball.net/2024/11/i_wonder https://daringfireball.net/2024/11/i_wonder
  - kstrauser 3mo ago
    I fully agree. That’s how you own a mistake.

user43928 3mo ago

I did not look into the details myself, but here are the links to the previous post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49228166 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49228166

ChrisMarshallNY 3mo ago
I know that not everyone is thrilled with Gruber, but I think this is classy (from his article): > To the best of my recollection, this is the first post I’ve retracted in the 24 years I’ve been writing Daring Fireball. I hope it’s the last. I was misled, both overtly and through omissions, in several ways, but what I publish is my responsibility, and I apologize for the error.
- sersi 3mo ago
  Gruner is a true fan and tends to be overly positive about Apple but I don't doubt his integrity for a second. In cases when his reporting is overly favorable to Apple in my eyes, I do believe that he truly believes what he says.
  - whstl 3mo ago
    It was interesting that his first retraction was due to a post being critical of Apple. Not that there hasn't been other critical posts, but he's very positive about the brand.
    - maratc 3mo ago
      Gruber himself has written a number of posts critical of Apple, some of them scathingly so.
      - ChrisMarshallNY 3mo ago
        Anyone that has been in the Apple ecosystem, for any length of time, has been insanely pissed off at them -usually, multiple times. They are a pretty arrogant megacorp, and tend to make decisions that primarily benefit themselves. But I generally have a positive relationship with them.
      - simonw 3mo ago
        Yeah, any time I see someone accuse Gruber of being universally positive about Apple I think they can't have been reading his work very often. Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino: https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/something_is_rotten_in_the_state_of_cupertino https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/something_is_rotten_in_th... Apple subsequently stopped providing Apple execs for his annual live podcast recording at WWDC. They don't confirm it was because of that piece (unsurprisingly) but it seems very likely it was.
        toasterlovin 2mo ago
        I came across a theory which seems more likely to me: Gruber lost access to Apple execs after he posted the following regarding Tim Cook and other tech CEOs congratulating Trump on winning the election in 2024: “I wonder how much Cook dithered over that cheerful-looking exclamation mark. I hope he regrets it. … I wonder how much it stings to be reminded that all the money in the world cannot buy dignity. I wonder too, what taste Cheetos-dusted 78-year-old testicles leave in one’s mouth. Whatever the flavor, I hope it lingers.” From the very end of this: https://daringfireball.net/2024/11/i_wonder https://daringfireball.net/2024/11/i_wonder
- kstrauser 3mo ago
  I fully agree. That’s how you own a mistake.